Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Erica Muhl


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) '''-- Cheers, Riley   Huntley ''' 00:11, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Erica Muhl

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Non-notable composer who fails WP:NMUSIC. No WP:RS available to establish notability. Qworty (talk) 10:15, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment I've added a couple of references, one her faculty profile, the other from a 3rd party publication regarding an award. The faculty profile does indicate that she has been recipient of various other awards too, so it is useful to anyone checking on notability. For that purpose, it may also be useful to refer back to the article version before its (unsourced) biographical content was removed: . AllyD (talk) 14:57, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 01:15, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 01:15, 27 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep per WP:PROF -- the AAAL award is a lifetime achievement award which, while low money, is mainly won by composers in the upper echelon of composition (consider the level of the other winners that year). Her position is full professor at a top music school, which is substantially above the Average Professor Test.  The commission by the Orchestra of Saint Luke's is also a high honor (the other commissions don't individually pass the WP:PROF test, but cumulatively they do).  Saying "Non-notable" isn't, to me, an argument in itself for deletion -- it's a conclusion to be reached based on evidence of lack of notability -- the website of the AAAL is a reliable source for who their winners are and the websites of the orchestras are reliable sources of who their commissioned composers are. I agree with AllyD that trimming the article of 2/3 of its content (including a notice about a commission of hers that appeared in the New York Times!) just before nominating for deletion is bad form. -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 00:43, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep – what M. S. Cuthbert wrote. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 12:52, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
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