Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Erich Holt Stem


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

At 02:44 today, User:AssumeGoodWraith, a non-administrator, closed this debate as no consensus. In line with WP:DPR, I, an administrator, have vacated this closure. I did so because I considered the closure to be in error. All opinions suggesting keeping the article were from users who are unregistered or have a conflict of interest, and they should be given little weight.

When considering the closure in the round, the result was delete. Stifle (talk) 10:39, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Erich Holt Stem

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Non-notable Opaqueambiguity (talk) 05:30, 14 February 2022 (UTC) Keep: Washington Post is an American newspaper source that is deemed credible, as is the West Virginia paper, and A Closer Listen doesn't look like a massive mag, but it stands as a credible source owned by a cadre of music critics.17:23, 17 February 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.249.120.118 (talk)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 05:53, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Virginia-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 05:53, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Simply being mentioned once in a credible source does not indicate notability. The WaPo article appears to be just a routine review of a local concert. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.213.168.118 (talk) 02:56, 21 February 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  13:25, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete One brief mention in the New York Times explaining a title to one of his musical works, and what looks to be like a concert program in GScholar. Oaktree b (talk) 16:05, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Keep: In addition to Wapo, West Virginia Gazette, and A Closer Listen, composer also has noteworthy mentions in two referenced "I Care if You Listen" articles, the Julliard Journal, and work with New Dynamic Records reviewed in Classical Music Daily and Time Out New York. These sources pass the "significant coverage" test as they go beyond trivial mentions of the composers's work, even if some of the sources' main content examines the work of other artists in the same article (also acceptable under the Significant Coverage test). Improvement to or updating the article could perhaps help the demonstration of notability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newdynamicrecords (talk • contribs) 07:25, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Note that the previous "keep" was submitted by an account that was one of the primary authors of the original article, and has the username "New Dynamic Records" which is the name of the record label operated by Dr. Stem himself via his position at Indiana University. Most likely this is Dr. Stem's own contribution to the discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.213.168.118 (talk) 20:10, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

  Newdynamicrecords has been renamed to JamesViolin. -- Deep fried okra ( talk ) 02:29, 23 February 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – AssumeGoodWraith  (talk &#124; contribs) 03:30, 1 March 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:03, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

How long does this discussion have to stay open? This is an obvious delete, fails all criteria for notability. This discussion has been relisted 3 times with almost zero discussion because nobody knows who he is and nobody cares. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.213.144.36 (talk) 16:20, 14 March 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.