Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Erin K. Kenny


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The result was redirect to Cedarsong Nature School. Black Kite (talk) 10:58, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Erin K. Kenny

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Fails WP:BASIC, WP:ANYBIO, and WP:AUTHOR. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:41, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete lack of sources that would lead to passing GNG.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:51, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
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 * Comment, found a review of her book Forest Kindergartens: The Cedarsong Way here, which describes her as the founder of the Forest kindergarten - "The arrival of this program (forest kindergarten), its success and the publicity it has received is undoubtedly due to the program's founder, Erin Kenny.", so if more useable sources aren't found a line or two could about her could be added at that article's History section. Coolabahapple (talk) 05:55, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment, added women project to article talkpage so participants are notified of this afd. Coolabahapple (talk) 05:59, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - references integrated in the article and some clean up done. Clearly passes WP:GNG. Hmlarson (talk) 21:44, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment - Hmlarson has done a great job showing the forest kindergarten movement is notable. Kenny, not so much. John from Idegon (talk) 22:28, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Haha. Thanks John! She co-founded the first school in the U.S. and clearly is a leading figure for the movement/educational philosophy. GNG clearly met. Article could use further clean up and expansion, not deletion per WP:ATD. Hmlarson (talk) 16:09, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   10:02, 20 October 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 00:20, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
 * keep. One of the sources says "is considered by forest educators as the mother of the American movement, " - notable enough for me. Staszek Lem (talk) 00:32, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete (Updated) Merge and redirect to Forest_kindergarten There is hardly any secondary coverage about the subject in reliable independent sources (if there is, please show it, because I cannot see). The subject is best known for founding Cedarsong Nature School which makes it a BLP1E. The coverage is entirely about the school with passing mentions/quotes by the subject. Per WP:NOPAGE and WP:WHYN there shouldn't be a separate page for the subject. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 09:13, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually I will go with a delete here. The merge target isn't really appropriate and I don't see a need for a redirect. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 11:43, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Tiny cites on GS indicate little impact. Xxanthippe (talk) 21:24, 29 October 2016 (UTC).
 * Delete - per my comments above, the sources being proffered for her notability are only passing mention of her, not the coverage in detail required to show notability. Realistically, how can we write a reasonably sourced biography of her when the only info we have is on her involvement with the educational movement? She's alive..... info such as her birth, her family, her education must be included and when all we have info on is the last few years, that cannot happen. If there is any info on the movement that isn't already in the appropriate article, by all means add it, but I see no need for a redirect at this time. John from Idegon (talk) 21:57, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Cedarsong Nature School per WP:BIO1E. No independent notability evident but redirects are cheap and the school appears to pass WP:GNG. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:16, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep There is coverage of her over time. Passes GNG. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 00:49, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep or at least redirect to preserve article edit history. I think there is adequate indicia of notability, and this is more than BIO1E, she is a founder of a new movement in preschool education and the movement is worldwide.  This is a big deal and she is a leader within it with a longstanding history of involvement, (note, ,  , , , etc.   Montanabw (talk) 06:59, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete and then Redirect instead as what's listed above is still not what is actually expected from a genuine article nor is what's in the current article convincing, therefore there's also then nothing for noticeable independent notability. SwisterTwister   talk  21:59, 7 November 2016 (UTC)


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