Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Erin Torpey (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Sourcing has been identified with which to improve the article, which Danilo has shown willingness to do. Would suggest draftspace rather than under a redirect, but there is not a consensus to delete this article and where to improve is a matter of editorial decision. Star  Mississippi  14:38, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

Erin Torpey
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As I said the last time I sent this article to AFD: “Fails WP:NACTOR. One notable role on One Life to Live, but nothing else of note afterward. Google search yields nothing substantive.” Bgsu98   (Talk)  22:06, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Women, Television,  and Pennsylvania.  Bgsu98   (Talk)  22:06, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: Fails WP:NACTOR, as the nom said. UtherSRG (talk) 22:21, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Strong keep – I requested this to be undeleted so I could some work on it and improve it over the next few weeks. I have redirected it for now so that I can do some work on it. However, it is really unfair that you have requested to delete it again as soon as it has been undeleted without giving it any chance to be improved. There are other sources other than on google which I will be adding. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 22:45, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment This article does fail WP:NACTOR before redirect, however it's unfair to DaniloDaysOfOurLives to nominate it for deletion after existing for just 12 hours after refund. Especially after a refund promising to improve the article, at least 2-3 days should be given before nominating it for deletion. JML1148 (talk &#124; contribs) 23:45, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Bad AFD, procedural close: in my opinion, the only acceptable result to come out of this AFD other than a procedural close would be a draftify or a keep. Give Danilo some time to do what he said he'd do. Maybe ask him to draftify it, but don't instantly take it to AFD. Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  04:22, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Procedural close DDOOL's efforts show that he's willing to redirect this article until he has time to work on it, which this process is preventing. The unredirect/update/re-redirect process has been used in other Wikipedia articles where one editor believes notability can be demonstrated. Jclemens (talk) 06:53, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Reply/comment - Thank you so so so so much guys for the support and kindness - I really appreciate it! Yes, my intention is to source and improve the article more so it meets notability. I will be honest, I am very busy with work for the next week or so and thus 3 days would (unfortunately) not be enough. I am happy to draftify it or move it to a sandbox if needed, or to improve it day by day by a set deadline of 3 weeks or something. I did redirect it when it got nominated for a second deletion as I did not want it to be deleted so soon after it got undeleted, but it has since been unredirected. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 08:50, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
 * This is what draftspace is pretty much made for, so I'd recommend that. :) Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  21:27, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. The subject passes Notability (people), which says: "People are presumed if they have received significant coverage in  that are,  of each other, and .If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability." Sources   The article notes: "Erin Torpey of Hilltown is every bit your prototypical 9-year-old All-American girl. ... Starting last Wednesday, at the Eugene O'Neill Theater, Erin Torpey can be found in the Broadway production of Tennessee Williams' "Cat On A Hot Tin Roof," alongside Charles Durning, Polly Holliday (TV's "Flo"), Daniel Hugh kelly (McCormick on TV's "Hardcastle and McCormick") and someone named Kathleen Turner. ... Her stage career professional started with "Annie" at Peddler's Village in Lahaska (under producer Richard Akins, a Pennridge-area native) when Torpey was all of 7."   The article notes: "Little girls grow up and sometimes move on to bigger and better things. The talented Erin Torpey (Jessica Buchanan) is leaving her comfy nest on "One Life to Live" to try something new."   The article notes: "Erin Torpey, the 22-year-old actress who took over the role of Jessica in 1990, left the part several weeks ago saying she needed a break and wants to go back to school. She also reportedly wants to explore career possibilities as a singer. While co-starring on "One Life to Live," she worked nights with Bernadette Peters and Martin Short in the 1993 Broadway musical "The Goodbye Girl" and has other musicals to her credit as well."  <li> The article notes: "Erin Torpey, 16, bounces regularly from her Philadelphia-area home to New York City and the set of the ABC daytime drama "One Life to Live." For seven years she has been that show's Jessica Buchanan, filming scenes twice a week, sometimes working long hours. After filming. Torpey returns home and attends "regular school." Occasionally, she has business travel related to acting, say to California for Friday's Soap Opera Digest awards, for which she is a best young actress nominee for the second time in three years. ... In addition to her television career, Torpey has appeared in two Broadway shows ... Coincidentally, she doesn't like an audience enough to want to speak extemporaneously in front of one. Of her previous best young actress nomination by Soap Opera Digest fans, two years ago, she said ..." </li> <li> The article notes: "Eight-year-old Erin Torpey, a third grader at M.M. Seylar Elementary School, won the first prize in the children's category with her lively rendition of the 1960's novelty classic, "Stupid Cupid." The blue-eyed Hilltown resident displayed a lot of poise during her singing of the bouncy hit tune." </li> <li> The article notes: "Erin Torpey of Perkasie was only 8 when she landed her first Broadway role in 1990 as the smallest of the "no-neck monster" children in Tennessee Williams' "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof." ... So Erin, now 12, is back at the Marquis Theatre playing Cynthia, a know-it-all teen-ager who is the confidante of Bernadette Peters' daughter Lucy, in Neil Simon's "The Goodbye Girl." Erin is on stage only five to eight minutes a night. She spends her offstage time doing homework or watching the show from the wings." </li> <li> The article notes: "Erin Torpey turns 19 on Feb. 14, but she's an old soul. Torpey joined One Life To Love as Jessica Buchanan at age 9, a year after she'd made her Broadway debut in Cat On A Hot Time Roof with Kathleen Turner and Charles Durning. ... How would she know about Turner? She was much too young for Body Heat. Torpey's next Broadway gig was the musical version of Neil Simon's The Goodbye Girl co-starring Martin Short and Bernadette Peters. In fact, Torpey started out in showbiz as singer rather than actor." </li> <li>Reichardt, Nancy M. (2000-11-13). "Erin Torpey is a force to be reckoned with" (pages 1 and 2). The Citizens' Voice. Archived from the original (pages 1 and 2) on 2023-06-04. Retrieved 2023-06-04 – via Newspapers.com. The article notes: "It is one thing to have the courage of your convictions, but for that to be true of a teenager is incredible. At age 19, Erin Torpey is truly a force to be reckoned with. She is one year younger than Jessica Buchanan, the character she plays on "One Life to Live," and when she was 14 years old she found out that her 15-year-old alter ego was going to have premarital sex. This did not sit well with her. ... Torpey may play younger than her years, but she has the maturity of someone much older. She attributes this to her family values. She has been playing the role since she was 8 years old, and for many years she attended school in her hometown in Pennsylvania. After school, her mother took her to New York City every day she was on call. Three years ago, she moved to New York City all by herself — sort of." </li> <li> The article notes: "Erin Torpey is all grown up. Not only is the 19-year-old actress out of school and out of her parents' Pennsylvania home, but Torpey, who has played Jessica Buchanan on "One Life to Live" for more than 10 years, used her first front-burner story line to nab her first Daytime Emmy nomination for outstanding younger actress. And with age comes career expansion: Look for Torpey to showcase her singing talents in a upcoming "OLTL" episode." </li> <li> The article notes: "Erin lives in a small town outside Philadelphia with her parents and older sister Shannon, 17. A ninth-grader, Erin attends regular school. She likes home economics and social studies but admits..." </li> <li> The article notes: "The minute Erin Torpey as Annie sings "Tomorrow there'll be sun," we feel confident that the clouds are temporary. Optimism runs in this red-headed trouper's universe. ... Neither he nor young Ms. Torpey have mined the tender, vulnerable side of Annie's character, but have focused on her resiliency, determination and pluck. This Annie sings well and does not resort to the shrill crooning typical of several of her predecessors in the role." </li> <li> The article notes: "Torpey, now 27 - and eager to chat, having just last year released her debut CD as a major step in transitioning to a career as a singer-songwriter. ... For Torpey, music is essential to that life. She released her first CD, the aptly titled "Part of the Plan," last December and will showcase tunes from the disc when she performs at Puck in Doylestown Friday, two days before hitting New York City's venerable Knitting Factory." </li> <li> The article notes: "Auditions of 300 girls here and in New York resulted in the casting of Erin Torpey, a veteran TV performer, in the lead role. She's adorable, and her singing has bite. ... Erin Torpey inhabits most of the scenes. She's got a strong voice for a 10-year-old; although it's not impeccable and fully formed, her vocal quavers supply a vulnerability in song that works just right. Since new interpretations of this part aren't really the point, she hunkers down, embraces the tradition, and serves it well. " </li> <li> The article notes: "It must be noted that Erin, lest she be upstaged in print, is no slouch. The fifth-grader has been playing Jessica on the soap opera "One Life to Live" for a year now, and made her Broadway debut in "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof. " Commercial work includes a spot for Cabbage Patch Dolls." </li> <li> The book notes: "9280. Erin Torpey (Feb. 14, 1981–) B: Doylestown, PA. The Goodbye Girl (Marquis, "Cynthia," Mar. 4, 1993): This Is as Good as It Gets; Who Would've Thought?/W: David Zippel, M: Marvin Hamlisch." </li> </ol>There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Erin Torpey to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 09:50, 4 June 2023 (UTC) </li></ul>
 * Keep roles in multiple productions of note + daytime Emmy nomination meets WP:NACTOR. Compulsive Researcher (talk) 16:31, 6 June 2023 (UTC)


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