Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ernest Lee Straughter


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The result was delete. MelanieN (talk) 03:16, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Ernest Lee Straughter

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No evidence of notability. The references (some of which are repeated, making it look as though there are more of them than there actually are) are mostly a mixture of pages not mentioning him at all and pages merely listing his name in credits. Many are blogs, listings at Discogs, etc. The only significant coverage is a couple of reports on a legal claim he has made. A PROD was removed by an editor who gave an edit summary saying "I think he passes notability for writing songs for notable artists", but that is a complete misunderstanding of Wikipedia's notability standards: notability is not inherited from notable people one works with, and we need evidence that he is notable in his own right. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 11:01, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  Programming Geek  (Page! • Talk! • Contribs!) 13:24, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  Programming Geek  (Page! • Talk! • Contribs!) 13:25, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep when I deprodded I meant he passes WP:COMPOSER criteria 1 and 3 which trumps WP: Notinherited. The criteria are "1. Has credit for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a notable composition." (songs he has composed include cowriting "I Waited" for Blue Magic and cowriting "Flyway "peformed by Coolio, "Spirit of Love" by Eddie Palmieri, "People Moving" for Azar Lawrence.  Criteria 3..Has had a work used as the basis for a later composition by a songwriter, composer or lyricist who meets the above criteria." ( meaning by someone who passes WP:Musicbio) including  has written songs for Phyllis Hyman, Horace Tapscott, Bobbi Humphrey Azar Lawrence Atlantic306 (talk) 16:14, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as I simply found nothing else better and the current article is especially not convincing. SwisterTwister   talk  06:00, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Agree with the nominator on all points. These are very weak references. Disagree with the argument to keep. The songs cited are not notable compositions on their own, and notability can't be inherited simply because they were recorded by notable artists. I will gladly change my opinion if it can be proved these compositions are notable. Their mere existence doesn't convey that. ShelbyMarion (talk) 13:54, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 22:25, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete weak refs are weak. Can find nothing better.  InsertCleverPhraseHere  10:01, 17 May 2016 (UTC)


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