Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ernest Riffe


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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 01:21, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Ernest Riffe

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Delete. WP:BLP of a film editor, whose only discernible claim of notability is that he's worked on films that exist. This is sourced almost entirely to references that verify the existence of the films, while failing to contain any mention of Riffe at all -- and the only reference that does have his name in it is a WP:PRIMARYSOURCE. Further, there's a conflict of interest here, as the article was created by the CEO of the main film studio in the same city where Riffe works. As always, a person in the film industry is not automatically entitled to a Wikipedia article just because he has an IMDb profile -- he has to be the subject of coverage in reliable sources, not just nominally verifiable as existing, to get an article on here. Bearcat (talk) 16:16, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ontario-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 16:17, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 16:21, 4 February 2017 (UTC)


 * "Further, there's a conflict of interest here, as the article was created by the CEO of the main film studio in the same city where Riffe works." This is incorrect as while my Wiki username is "Davidjosephanselmo," which is also the name of the CEO of a film studio in the same city where Riffe works, it is not my actual name LMFAO. Similar to how you are probably not a "Bearcat" (whatever that may be) and your actual name is probably not "Bearcat." My username is an inside joke, and not my actual identity so there is NO conflict of interest. Davidjosephanselmo (talk) 16:47, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Even if you're telling the truth that you're not personally David Joseph Anselmo, it doesn't make that much difference. Any form of direct personal association with the article topics is a conflict of interest on here — so if you're in any sort of position in which using his name as your username can qualify as an "inside joke", then you still have a COI. Bearcat (talk) 17:04, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

"Even if you're telling the truth that you're not personally David Joseph Anselmo, it doesn't make that much difference. Any form of direct personal association with the article topics is a conflict of interest on here — so if you're in any sort of position in which using his name as your username can qualify as an "inside joke", then you still have a COI."

Bearcat, please note that I have zero direct personal association with the article topics so, once again, there is NO conflict of interest here. And I repeat, David Joseph Anselmo has absolutely nothing to do with this feature film. You, Bearcat, are the person who keeps making this claim that cannot be verified. Davidjosephanselmo (talk) 17:22, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
 * If you have no personal association with David Joseph Anselmo, then how can using his name as your username be an "inside joke"? Bearcat (talk) 17:26, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Think of it this way: I have no relation to the now deceased Steve Jobs. Even if I create the Wiki username "Stevejobs" I still have no relation to Steve Jobs OTHER than the fact that I have used his hame as my Wiki username. And I might do this as an inside joke between myself and someone(s) else who is not or related to Steve Jobs. Make sense? Once again, my Wiki username "Davidjosephanselmo" is an inside joke, but it is not an inside joke between myself and David Joseph Anselmo. I can't make this ANYMORE clear. Hopefully you can now stop kicking this dead horse :) Davidjosephanselmo (talk) 17:35, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
 * The thing you're missing in that comparison is that the username "Stevejobs" would still get you editblocked for impersonation, regardless of who your "inside joke" was or wasn't with. Bearcat (talk) 20:00, 4 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete -- article fails WP:BLP and WP:GNG. Four of the five references do not mention this individual. And the fifth reference only lists his name among others. My search found no significant coverage by independent reliable sources. — Cactus Writer (talk) 18:48, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
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 * Delete being a film editor is not enough to establish notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:10, 10 February 2017 (UTC)


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