Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ernesto Corripio Ahumada

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was delete. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 14:52, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Ernesto Corripio Ahumada
Delete, because: -- Dcfleck 12:08, 2005 Apr 20 (UTC)
 * 1) Article is one sentance.
 * 2) Article contains no actual information about subject, other than a derogatory remark.
 * 3) I was unable to substantiate the factual nature of the derogatory remark - no relevant Google hits.
 * Delete - Do we need a Page for every Cardinal ? --Irishpunktom\talk 14:50, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete as libel? --Carnildo 23:00, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, cleanup and rename Ernesto Cardinal Corripio Ahumada. RickK 23:41, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * You realize, of course, that cleanup in this case means rewriting every word of the article. -- Dcfleck 01:40, 2005 Apr 21 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's common in cleanup to rip the stub up and start again. What of it?  In answer to Irishpunktom's question: why yes, eventually. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 19:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete and list on requested articles. Radiant_* 07:29, Apr 21, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, personal attack. Megan1967 04:42, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Please do some research prior to nominating articles for deletion.  He's a Cardinal, Archbishop emeritus of Mexico (retired 1994) and currently Cardinal-Priest of Immacolata al Tiburtino. I think he may also be a member of Opus Dei, and he probably has the ear of the Pope. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 18:25, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * "Please do some research ..." I did, as I mentioned in the nomination. Sorry I don't measure up to your exacting standards... --Dcfleck 02:42, 2005 Apr 30 (UTC)
 * This is still nothing but an attack page and thus speediable. It doesn't even provide the context that the guy is a Cardinal, besides an external link. But yes, we could use a page on every Cardinal; request, or keep in a hypothetical improved form. Samaritan 19:03, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * ...which we have now. Yay! Barnstars again to Tony Sidaway. Samaritan 02:53, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree it would have been speediable in its original form. That is easily remedied by turning it into a valid stub.  Which I've done. Please reconsider your votes.  I've taken the liberty of requesting help with cleanup and VfD on the talk pages for the articles about the current pope and the RC church. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 19:35, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I expanded the article a bit more, but it should probably be moved to Ernesto Cardinal Corripio Ahumada for consistency with our other Cardinal articles. Is it okay to move an article while on Vfd? -- Ferkelparade &pi; 20:04, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * Keep, because he is a Cardinal and thus noteworthy. Needs renaming ASAP to fit in with wikipedia practuice (cardinal in name), Redirect to  Ernesto Cardinal Corripio Ahumada. I suggest this isremoved from Vfd and speedily redirected. A separate article should not have been created, --SqueakBox 20:14, Apr 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, I fully agree with Tony -- Ferkelparade &pi; 19:35, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. It has now been cleaned up. --Oldak Quill 19:50, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and redirect. It needs to be a redirect to an already existing article using the man's proper name, Ernesto Cardinal Corripio y Ahumada.  --Gerald Farinas 20:12, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, expand, rename and redirect and remove from VfD. -- KTC 20:14, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and redirect now that it has been changed. Zzyzx11 | Talk 20:17, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, now clean up. KeithV 20:38, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, now cleaned up, but more work can be done. --Neigel von Teighen 20:40, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. Hmmm, I posted some requests on the current pope article talk page and the RC church article talk page, at around 19:30 UTC.  By some amazing coincidence this very day at 19:58 UTC there has appeared on this wonderful Library of Babel an extremely professionally written, encyclopedic article at Ernesto Cardinal Corripio y Ahumada.  Brothers and sisters, learn from this.  We can do a lot for Wikipedia by following the principle: "only connect". --Tony Sidaway|Talk 20:53, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Tony.... ask and ye shall receive!! ;) --Gerald Farinas 21:01, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * Keep Though I disagree with you, Tony. The answer should be: "Heck, yah!", not "Why not?" Opusaug 05:56, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect Now that Gerald has done all the work, there's no point in keeping the original article. Bratsche talk  random 12:39, May 3, 2005 (UTC)
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