Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ernst Albihn


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The result was no consensus.  Arbitrarily0  ( talk ) 04:03, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Ernst Albihn

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Contested PROD with reasoning ''1-His officiated 13 international matches were enough for notability as became BIO article such as football player which notable with play at least a international match (even friendly). 2- There are a lot articles in wikipedia as this article (with database sources or without newspaper sources''

In my view, the subject does not pass WP:GNG. He gets some coverage  but it's all trivial. Referees are not inherently notable for the matches that they have officiated. They need to have at least some coverage that focuses on them as an individual. Spiderone 19:18, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  19:19, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom, fails GNG. GiantSnowman 19:37, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep since coverage does exist – a search in the newspaper archives at https://tidningar.kb.se/?q=%20%22ernst%20albihn%22 shows a bit of coverage; several obituaries in the larger newspapers, which may or may not be primary, some coverage of his death, but also a couple of articles about him including a piece in Expressen (not a despicable tabloid at the time) about "the best Swedish football referees through history" from 1951, where Albihn was ranked 4th. Most sources are not freely available, unfortunately, but I have added some info based on the sources I can access. I'll be able to read the locked newspaper sources from the library at work, but I don't know when I will next be there – not before this AfD closes anyway, I'm afraid. --bonadea contributions talk 15:55, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, per bonadea. The best sources for persons who died in 1944 are often not easily accessible online; the articles about him in the newspaper archive are from the major Swedish newspapers. /Julle (talk) 03:31, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete because other (referee) articles exist is not a valid argument, and making a ranking of best Swedish referees is small change. David notMD (talk) 03:54, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't see anywhere in any of the Keep comments that anyone has made other stuff exists argument, User:David notM; the case being made is about sources existing. Nfitz (talk) 22:14, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:40, 9 November 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The SandDoctor  Talk 05:18, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Digging around, I can see other mentions in contemporary books. The sources added to this article since the AFD began, bring this to a level of keep. Nfitz (talk) 22:14, 21 November 2020 (UTC)


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