Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Errol Povah


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete and redirect to Airspace Action on Smoking and Health.  Sandstein  10:45, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

Errol Povah

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A few editors ( and ) have attempted to redirect the article to Airspace Action on Smoking and Health on concerns that the individual is not independently notable. After a quick search, I tend to agree as I did not see significant coverage in third party publications (the best I could find is this and this which do not even have Povah's name in the headline) with most mentions being in passing, in letters to the editor, or in first party or related sources. Given that the redirect has been reverted each time, I am seeking external thoughts. Mifter (talk) 06:07, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete While the subject shows up with minor mentions in reliable sources, there isn't the depth of coverage needed to demonstrate independent notability. PohranicniStraze (talk) 07:52, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 08:34, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of British Columbia-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 08:34, 1 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Airspace Action on Smoking and Health as previously done per WP:ATD-R. Apparently, the creator does not understand that WP:BLANKANDREDIRECT is a valid edit when notability is a concern. I agree with Mifter that there is no significant coverage of this individual to be found to establish their notability per WP:BIO, WP:GNG or WP:BASIC (I can find a couple of RS mentions in passing but not nearly enough. Regards So  Why  15:41, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete or Redirect to Airspace Action on Smoking and Health. I originally stumbled upon this article when searching for a name that was in the paper, expecting a personal blog or a linkedin profile, I was surprised that he had a Wikipedia article as, I've lived in this city for two decades where he is active, and even here he wouldn't really qualify as "Notable". I've seen a lot of protests over the years but I've never seen a "grim reaper"... I do admit mea culpa, I accidentally tagged the article for "speedy deletion" as I wasn't sure how to use the templates properly. I much prefer this current process (thank you Admin editors for correcting this. I don't have an account because I only ever very casually edit pages). His name does get mentioned in the paper in passing here and there like Mifter said, but that's about all the mentions I ever hear. I was surprised and then the tone of the article was a bit, off (at the very least Edit the article for neutrality), so that's why I added the templates. I started a discussion in the Talk page where the I addressed the article issues, as of yet I haven't seen a response. The redirect seems appropriate, but considering the redirected article has very little itself on Errol Povah, I'm not sure why there needs to be a primary article at all. 24.80.104.82 (talk) 00:39, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Airspace Action on Smoking and Health, then protect the redirect from further disruptive editing. Searches show they fail WP:GNG.  Onel 5969  TT me 12:44, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, without prejudice against recreation of a redirect afterward — but delete the article first and then create a redirect if desired, because we have no need to retain the edit history behind the redirect. None of this is "inherently" notable for the purposes of establishing that he's eligible for a Wikipedia article — but the sourcing consists of one glancing namecheck of his existence in a news article about something else and a letter to the editor which he wrote, which is nowhere close to enough sourcing to get him over WP:GNG. Bearcat (talk) 22:51, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep It seems that Kinder Morgan regards Povah as significant. 201.111.10.207 (talk) 13:51, 7 December 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.