Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Errol Sawyer (3rd nomination)


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The result was   delete. L Faraone  01:21, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Errol Sawyer
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Was deleted at AFD but recreated via AFC, then G4. Opinion in a DRV was split about endorsing the close Deletion review/Log/2013 June 1 with arguments about promotional language and concern over the validity of new sourcing being expressed.As the DRV was closed as relist. As the closer of the DRV, I am neutral. Spartaz Humbug! 01:57, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete: Another promotional re-creation by another SPA. Sawyer still doesn't verifiably meet WP:CREATIVE and the article's sourcing remains weak.  The SPA argued for re-creation based on a book/collection and (for the first time) in-depth coverage, but the book had to be self-published and the coverage amounts to the book's foreword and two paragraphs on a critic's personal website, both of which one editor (apparently with some experience in these matters) in the DRV suggested were possibly pay-for-praise gigs.  None of this proves notability to me.    Mbinebri   talk &larr; 03:35, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete: Can not see how the subject notable and the author has failed to address the issues with sources. ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   03:49, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - from my perspective, the article would need a lot more by way of reliable sources to substantiate the notability of the subject. I've had a look online and couldn't find much that would help the cause. Using Facebook and blogs is a bad start, but a significant amount of the article is sourced to the subject's own self-published book and website. There's a few things by him, but not a lot about him. Not enough to meet WP:GNG or WP:ARTIST in my view. Stalwart 111  09:42, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete given the article's history and the behaviour of the article creator at the recent DRV, it's impossible to see this as anything other than an attempt at advertising/self-promotion from someone who clearly has a conflict of interest. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  04:14, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
 * weak Keep As I said previously, the presence of the work in the V&A meets the requirement for creative, along with the other sources, altho it is borderline. As I've said before, I have tried  to help with this article, and I wish there were more to be found.  DGG ( talk ) 06:45, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
 * With all due respect for DGG's admirable attempts to help, I don't think those sources suffice as the basis for a BLP.— S Marshall T/C 07:55, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
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