Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Es leuchten die Sterne


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The result was   redirect to The Stars Shine (film). Spartaz Humbug! 07:08, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

Es leuchten die Sterne

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This article appears, on the face of it, to be complete nonsense. Well, maybe it's not, but the only source is a YouTube upload - IMDB lists this title as a completely innocuous musical. Guy (Help!) 19:10, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:22, 24 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete (Redirect per comment below) This one is nonsense. The IMDB listing for a same-named 1938 propaganda film by Hans H. Zerlett actually looks like it could be a reasonable article on a sourcable pre-WW2 German film... but as described here, THIS one is nonsense sourcable only to facebook, blogs, and a youtube video that has been removed when the account was terminated, making me belive possible hoax. No prejudice toward recreation of an article on the actual 1938 film.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 04:39, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep and rewrite to be on the 1938 film. The article creator appears to have been misled by the YouTube video, which may have been an extract from the entire work; even if it was a hoax, there is a film of this name that involved several notable people and is frequently mentioned as an example of Nazi entertainment, so sources can be found. Yngvadottir (talk) 05:04, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, as a re-write will serve just fine, I was inspired by my own comment to do just that. User:MichaelQSchmidt/The Stars Shine (film) is being worked on, even now. When finished, I will be glad to come back, overwrite the current mess with my newer version, and change my !vote to a keep.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 07:00, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
 * On second thought, I think I'll stick with a delete, specially as this current version remained pretty much in its same sorry and unsourced state since 2006. Seriously. It lasted THAT long. Go figure.  I think it perhaps best to continue my work on my new article... one that is quite different from the one at this AFD... a new article with different content... only having the same name... so I can then reward my own work with a DYK.  Then I can come back and suggest a redirect from old to new.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 08:05, 24 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment New article The Stars Shine has now been written about the actual  musical film under its May 1938 United States release title, and is suitable as a redirect target.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 21:23, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment I applaud MichaelQSchmidt for creating an accurate article on this film, and am rendering what assistance I can. But I still advocate keeping and completely changing Es leuchten die Sterne . . . to a redirect. I don't believe it would be right to efface the history of the existing article as would happen if it were deleted. And the new article needs a redirect from its original title anyway. Yngvadottir (talk) 22:30, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.