Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Escape Into Life


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Not all sources demonstrate notability and there is a consensus here that while sources exist about this album they do not demonstrate notability. Barkeep49 (talk) 01:26, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Escape Into Life

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No evidence of notability for artist or album. The 65 Google hits reveal no good reliable source giving significant attention to this record. The best would be a very short "review" in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. Fram (talk) 10:26, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Fram (talk) 10:26, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Below please find additional reliable sources for artist and album notability: Highfifan (talk) 20:49, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
 * oppose/keep This article has been in good standing, and approved by other editors since its creation 3 years ago. Though the artist is not that well known in the US (with the exception of Southern California), he has a presence in Asia, South America, and parts of Europe.
 * Album & Artist listed on industry standard Allmusic
 * Release date on Pause & Play
 * Legitimate music blog album review
 * Another music blog
 * Artist and Album listed in MTV Italy
 * Artist is a band member of notable band Hautewerk
 * Performance at KUCI 88.9 FM
 * Interview and performance at Laguna Beach's FM93.5
 * Performance at the OC Fair
 * Headlining performance in Nanyang, China
 * Festival news coverage
 * Album listed as produced by Ed Stasium (Ramones, Talking Heads, Living Color, Mick Jagger)


 * Most of these give no notability, as they are not reliable sources, or simple listings of the artist without actual commentary (Allmusic, Pause and Play), or reprints of press releases (the text of the Chinese blog is the same as another one you list, "Tom set out to craft a diverse and accomplished record that will please rock fans of all backgrounds" and so on). The "presence in Europe" is an announcement of a concert he would give in a café on sites where everyone can announce events, not an indication of actual notability or success. The same applies to South America; it's a concert in a café in Santiago de Chile. Fram (talk) 10:15, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Fram, why are you so intent in getting this deleted, when the article has been in good standing since its creation three years ago, and has been reviewed, worked on and improved by eight other editors? The artist is still a current member of a notable band (Hautewerk), and the album in question was produced and mixed by a very notable, multi-platinum, grammy-winning producer (Ed Stasium). Highfifan (talk) 11:28, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
 * That he is a member of Hautewerk has received next to no attention at all. The same goes for the contribution of Stasium. For some reason, Tom Ricci (and this album) just haven't received the attention required to have an article here. The "eight other editors" don't seem to have contributed any actual information, just technical cleanup of the article. Not everyone looks at articles with an eye to its notability. Fram (talk) 12:23, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ST47 (talk) 05:33, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: I want more policy-based keeps here.
 * keep had to see what is gained by removing this good web summary of the work and its connections to other creators --Artlung (talk) 21:53, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  J 947 &thinsp;(c) , at 02:41, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - In the above argument, the nominator (Fram) comes out on top. This album has indeed been listed in many places, including AllMusic, but it has not been covered in those sources beyond mere introductions to its existence. The article's statement on radio airplay is unsupported and has also been avoided by the commenters above. I can find absolutely no reliable media notice on the album to satisfy the requirements at WP:NALBUM. All other sources found, including those listed by commenters above, are mentions in unreliable blogs and many are about the musician rather than the album. A Wikipedia article on Tom Ricci might be viable, and then this album's existence can be briefly mentioned there. But until that happens, there is little to no reason for this album to have its own article. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 16:05, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
 * KEEP - Album release announced in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel (part of the USA Today Network) Highfifan(talk) 18:44, 12 December 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.