Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Escape the Fate's fourth studio album


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Userfy. Consensus is to userfy OR delete as TOOSOON - I will userfy to User:Panic Reaper/Escape ( talk→  BWilkins   ←track ) 11:54, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Escape the Fate's fourth studio album

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Was WP:PRODded by another editor (which was contested) and I can't help but feel it doesn't meet WP:CRYSTAL. Content is more about the band and their recent endeavours than the album, relying extensively on first-party references which fail WP:Reliable sources. Much of the content seems more appropriate for a magazine interview than an encyclopedia. Rushyo  Talk  17:25, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:HAMMER. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 17:44, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Userfy for a short while back to author User:Panic Reaper as a userspace work-in-progress. Recording of this album is verifiable as in progress, even without a current title.  And while the essay WP:HAMMER suggests that untitled albums might often not yet be notable enough for separate articles, even it explains that there are occasional exceptions to this law, as sometimes a future album will contain enough verifiable information for a decent article even if the title is not known.  I note that we do have a decent article already, and I believe the article would be unimpeachable in only a few months in any case.  As the author has been diligent in the creating and sourcing of this article, an outright deletion does not serve the project when other more suitable options are available.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 21:23, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 02:44, 21 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Merge with Escape the Fate. I PROD-ed it as per WP:HAMMER as the album was untitled AND didn't appear to pass WP:GNG.  Facebook isn't a reliable source.  That being said, I don't see why all the material about the band itself can't be merged into the band's page if it's properly referenced by reliable sources. §everal⇒|Times 15:48, 21 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep The album will be released soon and the sources are highly reliable   Ericdeaththe2nd
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:02, 27 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete - A decently-written article but the sources do not deal with the subject itself (the actual album) in depth. If you cut out the fluff (bust-ups, collaborations, tours, etc.) then there is very little viable, verifiable info on the actual album. It doesn't matter if an album is unreleased or already released if there's insufficient sourced info on the album itself to demonstrate independent notability. ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ Speak 16:46, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.