Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Escape to Beer Mountain: A Rope of Sand


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Merge.  There was clearly consensus to not keep any of the individual articles, and no consensus between merge and deletion. So I choose merge as the outcome here because (1) lack of consensus between deleting something and not deleting something normally defaults to not deleting, and (2) the List of Episodes article can be improved (expanded) if we merge, but since merging and deleting presents a GFDL copyright issue, it would not and could not be improved if we delete the redirects. Mango juice talk 17:38, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Escape to Beer Mountain: A Rope of Sand

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I'm also nominating the following articles for the same reasons.

Fails WP:PLOT and WP:NOR. There's no reason to create specific episode articles for a series that's barely notable in the first place. I see no point in using their titles as redirects to List of Clone High episodes (which is better off being merged to Clone High in the first place since its a short-lived series). Jonny2x4 (talk) 02:03, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge the synopses (but not the plot walkthrough) with List of Clone High episodes. Full episode walkthroughs of individual episodes are a bit bloated, but I don't think a full-scale deletion is in order either. Sjakkalle (Check!)  09:04, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * merge An episodes article would be okay. ChildofMidnight (talk) 10:04, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * There is an episode's article. Check List of Clone High episodes. -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:06, 20 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete. The synopses are only a few words longer than the summaries in the LoE, and the trouble to merge them and watch out for undiscussed article resurrections in the future is too big. The articles consist of nothing but PLOT and OR (or observations sourced to an unreliable fan source), so it's better to start fresh (or ask back at DRV) if sources and an interested editor show up. – sgeureka t•c 11:54, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge and/or redirect per others and per WP:EPISODE. It is no more trouble to "watch out for undiscussed article resurrections" from blue-links than from red-links, and it is easier to revert a redirect than to delete an article recreation. Also, no one is forcing anyone to go through "the trouble of merging", this can be done by interested editors at their leisure following a redirect closure. But deleting the histories makes merging that much more difficult—interested editors with sources might wish to use the words that previous editors had written and use the sources to back them up, rather than paraphrasing the sources themselves. DHowell (talk) 07:01, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.   -- Raven1977 (talk) 01:28, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions.   -- Raven1977 (talk) 01:28, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete good nomination. The LOE is more than sufficient. Eusebeus (talk) 00:52, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge and/or redirect There's a lot of info in those pages.  Relevant info should be merged into the episode page, not deleted.JeffyP (talk) 22:17, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge: Not nearly notable enough to have articles for each episode. Recommend merging into List of Clone High episodes. – Jerry  teps  22:52, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge - Merge into List of Clone High episodes &mdash; neuro(talk) 13:25, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not notable and these was little to no effort to footnote any of the sentences to an independent, secondary sources. It doesn't seem like a good idea to merge problem content from one location to another. Per above, it's better to start fresh. -- Suntag  ☼  03:08, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong delete. List of Clone High episodes contains air dates and a short 1-line summary. This is enough. The rest is non notable, circulation of the cast, etc.-- Magioladitis (talk) 16:05, 20 November 2008 (UTC)


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