Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Esmie Tseng


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. Sr13 23:28, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Esmie Tseng

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A minor convicted for manslaughter, who had 15 min of fame by blogging about it. I'm just not sure we need to do this. Please delete it. -Docg 20:14, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * delete a person killing their own mother, while sad, is Common. Check out Google News for the past month or so. While this has some false hits, just read the stories and you can see that killing your mom (or planning it) is more common than what some think. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 20:19, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete No google news hits afree with Doc and zscout that she just had 15 minuets of fame. -- St.daniel Talk 20:37, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * If someone has fifteen minuets of fame, wouldn't that make them a composer? :-P Ten Pound Hammer  • (((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps))) 21:54, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Why would there be google news hits on a story that mostly wrapped up a year ago? Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 06:32, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Who hasn't killed their mother in a knife fight at one time or another? This was a one-day wonder, not of lasting encyclopedic value. Herostratus 21:08, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete for lack of sources and lack of notability. Per the above users, someone killing their mother is (sadly) a common thing. Ten Pound Hammer  • (((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps))) 21:54, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep try Google news ARCHIVE search. Gets 51 hits, including multiple instances of non-trivial coverage going on for almost 10 months after the murder. She even gets trivial mentions from before the murder for her school accomplishments along with several of her classmates. Also has international coverage, e.g.  cab 22:26, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, 51 hits in the 10 months after. How many since? I clicked on three of the 51 at random and all of them had been removed - the 15 min of fame are over. We should not be in the business of prolonging them. Someday this child comes out of prison and tries to get on with her life - does a Wikipedia bio then follow her about. Perhaps we need a Rehabilitation of Offenders Act--Docg 22:32, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete. Let's make a bot that strips criminal records so we can have an article for every criminal ever. ZsinjTalk 00:00, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, meets notability standards for people by receiving multiple nontrivial coverage; doesn't lose it just because no one's written about her lately. It was a high profile crime with sufficient coverage for us to write about. Being common isn't a reason for exclusion.  That's the essence of WP:NOT Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 06:29, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.