Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eso-Charis


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The result was keep. Per WP:BAND1(6). JodyBtalk 22:37, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Eso-Charis

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Non-notable band, although it has a few notable musicians, it fails WP:GNG. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:45, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Comment. Doesn't WP:NBAND allow for groups that have multiple notable members?  Also, there's this review from Exclaim!.  From a search on Google Books, they seem to have an entry in Encyclopedia of Contemporary Christian Music, Volume 1.  It's not much to go on, but I'm thinking maybe this is a keep.  I'll give it some more thought. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 05:44, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
 * The assumption of BAND is that these are ways band may meet GNG. They are not stand-alone criteria. In other words, it's a "supergroup" but no RSes write about it, it fails notability guidelines. The talk page for BAND discusses this. Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:03, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
 * As for Encyclopedia of Contemporary Christian Music Powel (2002), I have a copy of it and they do not have an entry. Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:06, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Here's a link to what I saw on Google Books: . Thanks for the note.  I'll look at that talk page. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 06:37, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I stand corrected. I was reading Eco not Eso. It describes one indie release and is only half of a column (on page 307). Most notable bands would be at least a full page in length. Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:40, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep I think it's a notable band because, Cory Brandan Putman went on to join Norma Jean and Living Sacrifice. As did Arthur Green, and Matt Putman. Living Sacrifice is a notable band, that is associated with Eso-Charis because of those three joining. And Vocalist Bruce Fitzhugh (Living Sacrifice) produced their album, Eso-Charis. Metalworker14 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 18:46, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. That's great and an expectation for more to be written about them based on WP:MUSICBIO, but those facts have not resulted in more press. Walter Görlitz (talk) 02:52, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep, This is notable because for their lone album they have received four reviews by three different publications. AllMusic, Cross Rhythms, and two by The Phantom Tollbooth. So, I'd say notable.The Cross Bearer (talk) 09:01, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 22:36, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. I don't know about the Phantom Tollbooth source, but Cross Rhythms certainly looks reliable.  Allmusic really isn't useful for establishing notability.  They review everything.  Any more sources? NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 07:34, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
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