Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Esoteric programming language related/Detail

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List of esoteric programming languages
Delete list-article, most significant examples are mentioned in the article Esoteric programming language. For the individual entries see below. -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Could be made into a category, though, I presume. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * There is a category already: Category:Esoteric programming languages -- Chris 73 Talk 15:39, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Strong keep especially if deleting the rest, at least keep this one, and the hello world program article below Kim Bruning 15:32, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Angela. 16:12, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep. I would suggest keeping this as a place to preserve the thin residue of useful content from the rest. As against a category, it has the advantage that we can include webpage links to languages that are somewhat interesting, but may not merit full articles (for example, several "single instruction set" languages can reference the fact that, whilst intended as a joke, it has been demonstrated that a useful and powerful computer can be built with a single instruction "set"). I note also, however, that this list includes several languages that may be little known, but which under the given definition are not "esoteric" (AKI, Bon programming language, MDPN, MUF, o:XML, SSK and maybe ALPACA). Oh, and get rid of the red links so people don't recreate articles. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep, to merge esolangs into it. Mikkalai 05:03, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Category: This shud be made into a category, not a listing page. -- zzo38 02:51, 2004 Oct 1 (UTC)

Hello world program in esoteric languages
Are we a source code depository? Look at it, shake your head, and then Delete! -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. There's no reason to delete it, at all. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep, keep at least this one, and List of esoteric programming langauges above. Kim Bruning 15:32, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Delete. But there is a website somewhere with a monumental list of these, which might be added as an external link to Esoteric programming language. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to Hello world (although I'd cheerfully vote to delete that as well; Wikipedia is not a code archive).   &mdash;Triskaideka 17:03, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete after ensuring content is not lost. The content belongs to the respective programming language articles. There is no point in this article. It's not a list, it's not a comparison. --Hemanshu 17:07, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep as a valid sublist of a large "hello-world"-related topic Mikkalai 05:05, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * External: If you dont want a source code depository on this wikipedia, then maybe you can make it a external link. -- zzo38 02:51, 2004 Oct 1 (UTC)

23 programming language
2 hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Twenty-Three" " esoteric programming language". SubStub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * For the record, those 2 results are also copies of Wikipedia content. --Hemanshu 17:02, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there are no size constraints, and there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Do we have any evidence that this topic exists? Is it verifiable? If so, keep, else delete on the basis of Google test. --Hemanshu 17:02, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Here's some clear evidence that it exists. Note that that page would be ignored by the extremely flawed Google search criteria above. Factitious 19:09, Oct 1, 2004 (UTC)


 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * merge & redir. Mikkalai 05:06, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. [Read the article, please.] There's a link to the homepage of 23! --ZeroOne 21:33, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

4DL programming language
16 hits on 7 sites for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "4DL" " esoteric programming language". Substub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete unless more evidence is found of it being notable. --Hemanshu 17:05, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC) Keep. --Hemanshu 17:13, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * merge & redir. Mikkalai 05:06, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

ALPACA programming language
4 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "ALPACA programming language" Stub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Redirect - until we can get a useful article going. While it is certainly little known at present, this actually sounds like a useful research project. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep seems notable based on this search --Hemanshu 18:09, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * merge & redir. Mikkalai 05:08, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Argh!
17 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Argh programming language". Substub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete unless evidence of notability is found. --Hemanshu 18:21, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * merge & redir. Mikkalai 05:09, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Aura programming language
11 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Aura programming language". Stub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Delete unless verified and found notable. Little evidence of existence. --Hemanshu 18:25, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * merge & redir. Mikkalai 05:09, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

BAK programming language
26 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "BAK programming language". Substub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Delete unless verified and found notable. --Hemanshu 18:31, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Well, it's easy enough to verify, by checking the external links from its entry. Note that those pages would be ignored by the extremely flawed Google search criteria above. Factitious 19:14, Oct 1, 2004 (UTC)


 * merge & redir. Mikkalai 05:09, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

BDAMD
40 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "BDAMD programming language". Stub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep. Seems notable based on this search --Hemanshu 18:33, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * merge & redir. Mikkalai 05:09, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Beatnik programming language
19 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Beatnik programming language". Substub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep. Seems notable based on this search --Hemanshu 18:36, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * merge & redir. Mikkalai 05:09, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Befreak programming language
30 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Befreak programming language". Substub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep (benefit of doubt) --Hemanshu 19:19, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * keep. Mikkalai 05:10, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Befunge
Keep: 272 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Befunge programming language". Actually seems to be one of the more important languages with some historical significance. -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep. Established, notable, compilers exist, worth discussing for its code arrangement alone.   &mdash;Triskaideka 16:34, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. --Hemanshu 19:35, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * keep. Mikkalai 05:10, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Blank programming language
15 google hit for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Blank programming language". Substub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Delete unless verified and found to be notable. --Hemanshu 19:47, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * merge & redir. Mikkalai 05:10, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Bloop programming language
15 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Bloop programming language". Substub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Redirect to the book. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Delete unless verified and found to be notable. --Hemanshu 20:04, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Bon programming language
65 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Bon programming language". Substub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep or redirect. This is old and forgotten now, but a real part of programming history. It's possibly a partial ancestor of C! Might have trouble getting enough info for a full article, though. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep. Benefit of doubt. --Hemanshu 20:08, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Brainfuck
Keep: 750 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Brainfuck programming language". Seems to be a more established and significant language. -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep. It is indeed an established and significant esoteric language.   &mdash;Triskaideka 16:12, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. --Hemanshu 20:12, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Absolutly Keep Brainfuck - many of the esoteric programming languages are not notable, but this is. Darksun 21:37, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Brainfork programming language
15 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Brainfork programming language". Stub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Merge and redirect to Brainfuck. No reason for this variant to have its own article, but no reason not to mention it in the base language's article.   &mdash;Triskaideka 18:35, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Bubble programming language
11 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Bubble programming language". Substub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Delete unless verified and found to be notable. --Hemanshu 20:18, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Bullfrog programming language
11 hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Bullfrog programming language". Substub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Delete unless verified and found to be notable. --Hemanshu 20:20, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

C- programming language
C- ... This language was named for the grade received by its creator  when  he  submitted  it as a class project in a graduate programming class., and made it as a joke into a paper in 1982. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Delete. A joke, not a real programming language.  A link to  or a similar page from Esoteric programming language, and/or a mention in C Plus Plus, would be more than sufficient.   &mdash;Triskaideka 20:33, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Chef programming language
60 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Chef programming language". Stub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep seems notable. --Hemanshu 09:08, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Appears to work, has properties worth discussing.   &mdash;Triskaideka 19:48, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Choon
5 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Choon" "esoteric programming language". Substub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Condit programming language
25 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Condit programming language". Stub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

COW programming language
26 hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "COW programming language". Stub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

DOGO programming language
17 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "DOGO programming language". Invented as a joke. Stub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Delete. A joke, not a real programming language.  A link to   or a similar page from Esoteric programming language, and/or a mention in LOGO, would be more than sufficient.   &mdash;Triskaideka 20:33, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete unless verified and found to be notable. --Hemanshu 09:42, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Doublefuck programming language
27 Google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Doublefuck programming language". Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Merge and redirect to Brainfuck. No reason for this variant to have its own article, but no reason not to mention it in the base language's article.   &mdash;Triskaideka 20:41, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete unless verified and found to be notable. --Hemanshu 09:58, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

ETA programming language
70 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "ETA programming language". Stub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep notable based on this search. --Hemanshu 10:03, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

False programming language
'Keep: 213 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "False programming language". Seems to be a bit more significant in a historic context. -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep. {&Alpha;&nu;&#940;&rho;&iota;&omicron;&nu;} 13:19, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Redirect. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep. Notable. --Hemanshu 10:09, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

FIFTH programming language
30 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "FIFTH programming language". Invented as ajoke and spoof. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Delete. A joke, not a real programming language.  A link to   or a similar page from Esoteric programming language, and/or a mention in FORTH, would be more than sufficient.   &mdash;Triskaideka 20:33, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep: This is not reel it is a joke, but you shud keep it enyways (maybe make a joke secsen.) -- zzo38 02:51, 2004 Oct 1 (UTC)

Floop programming language
20 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Floop programming language". Created as a demonstration by a purlitzer price winner. Stub. Weak Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Redirect to the book. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep. Notable. --Hemanshu 17:32, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Fromage programming language
28 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Fromage programming language". Substub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep. Notable. --Hemanshu 17:57, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Gammaplex
3 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Gammaplex programming language" . Substub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

GOTO plus plus
6 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "GOTO plus plus programming language" . Substub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep. Notable. --Hemanshu 18:17, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

HQ9 Plus
0 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "HQ9 Plus" "esoteric programming language" . Joke. Delete. -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep Try searching for "HQ9+". Duh. &mdash;Ashley Y 01:08, 2004 Sep 30 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's HQ9+. it's named that way coz of MediaWiki's inability to have such a name. --Hemanshu 18:19, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete: This article as well as the program langwige is stupit. Or maybe you shud keep it, I am not ser. -- zzo38 02:51, 2004 Oct 1 (UTC)

INTERCAL programming language
Keep: 844 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "INTERCAL programming language" . Seems to be more significant in a historic context -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Definitely keep. I would think most professional programmers would have come across this. It is the grandaddy of spoof languages, and unlike other joke langauges, it was a significant satire at the time. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not--Hemanshu 18:21, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC) paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * INTERCAL is a notable parody language, and I thought "historic context" was a large part of what Wikipedia was about. -- Cyrius|&#9998; 15:21, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * that's why I voted for Keep (and 6 other Esoteric programming languages BTW) -- Chris 73 Talk


 * Keep for the same reasons as given above.   &mdash;Triskaideka 20:46, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. --Hemanshu 18:21, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep: One of the most interesting and historically relevant esoteric programming languages.
 * Keep: INTERCAL is still used a lot! -- zzo38 02:51, 2004 Oct 1 (UTC)

Iota and Jot programming languages
0 google hits for  -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Iota and Jot programming language". Substub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Merge with Turing tarpit and redirect. These are actually kind of interesting because, although originally intended as jokes, they inspired research which came to the conclusion that quite a powerful and useful machine can be built on this architecture. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep. Try searching individually for Iota and Jot. Duh. --Hemanshu 18:24, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Java2K
2 google hits for  -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Java2K programming language". Substub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep. Again not searched for properly. search for Java2K or Java2K programming language without the quotes. --Hemanshu 18:26, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Kipple programming language
197 google hits for  -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Kipple programming language". Weak Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep. --Hemanshu 18:28, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Kvikkalkul programming language
42 google hits for  -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Kvikkalkul programming language". Supposedly created by the swedish Navy in 1950, Joke from 1994. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Maybe redirect to a list of hoaxes? Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

L programming language
209 google hits for  -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "l programming language". Substub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

L33t programming language
23 google hits for  -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "L33t programming language".  Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Much more detail here than in most of the other articles. --AlexChurchill 17:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete: While the page may be detailed, the language is devoid of value.

Lambda programming language
45 google hits for  -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Lambda programming language". Substub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

LAIDBACK
23 google hits for  -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "LAIDBACK programming language". Invented as a Joke. Delete. -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Delete. A joke, not a real programming language.  A link to   or a similar page from Esoteric programming language would be more than sufficient.   &mdash;Triskaideka 20:33, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Lazy K programming language
28 google hits for  -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Lazy K programming language". Stub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

LITHP programming language
8 google hits for  -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "LITHP programming language". Invented as a Joke. Stub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Delete. A joke, not a real programming language.  A link to   or a similar page from Esoteric programming language, and/or a mention in LISP, would be more than sufficient.   &mdash;Triskaideka 20:33, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

L00P
15 google hits for  -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "L00P programming language". Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Malbolge
Weak Keep: 24 google hits for  -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Malbolge programming language", but seems to be around for some time. -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep. Established and notable among esoteric programming languages.   &mdash;Triskaideka 16:20, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Muriel
1 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Muriel programming language" . Substub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Numberix
69 google hits for  -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Numberix programming language". Substub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

OISC
0 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "OISC programming language". Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Merge with Turing tarpit and redirect. See comments above regrading Iota, etc. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep, RTFA. Exceptionally bad research for this nomination. Kim Bruning 21:00, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Ook
51 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Ook programming language". brainfuck in Orang Utang language. Delete-- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Delete. This is a joke. Representing the Brainfuck commands in a different way doesn't make a new language. The academic, philosophic, and humor values of this language are, IMO, negligible.  Not worth mentioning at Brainfuck.   &mdash;Triskaideka 22:27, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Comment: two things about this nomination are unusual:
 * The top part of the page is about a fictional language in Discworld and should be considered separately. (I would also vote to delete it as too trivial.)
 * On Talk:Ook we see that the article was already nominated for deletion and somehow survived.
 * Delete/Redirect: Quote "Representing the Brainfuck commands in a different way doesn't make a new language." Maybe just list it at the end uv Brainfuck wat uther way uv repesent it. Delete it or redirect it to Brainfuck. -- zzo38 02:51, 2004 Oct 1 (UTC)

Obfuna
1 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Obfuna programming language". Weak Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Oroogu programming language
26 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Oroogu programming language". Substub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

O xml
48 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "O xml programming language". Sub-Sub-Substub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep, but move it out of "esoteric", and move to its proper name. This is a real, serious language. The problem with your Google search is that the name is screwed up. -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "o:XML" gives me 24,600 hits! Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

PATH programming language
290 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "PATH programming language". Weak Delete --Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Ditto, a weak delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

QUOTE programming language
62 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "QUOTE programming language". Stub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Sartre programming language
25 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Sartre programming language". Invented as a joke. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Delete. A joke, not a real programming language.  A link to   or a similar page from Esoteric programming language would be more than sufficient.   &mdash;Triskaideka 15:46, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Actually, there's a lot more to this language than that joke post. Have you read Colagioia's documentation, for example? Factitious 19:28, Oct 1, 2004 (UTC)
 * (For reference purposes: the documentation.) Yes, I have, long before I came to Wikipedia. It is still my estimation that Sartre (the language, not the philosopher) is a joke in the contexts both of philosophy and of computer science, and that a discussion of it, while entertaining, is without encyclopedic value.   &mdash;Triskaideka 19:46, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep: It is a reel program langwige (almost), altho nobudy has made interpreter for it. The document is kind uv mes up, so you beter fix it before make interpreter for it. You shud link to the document from here. -- zzo38 02:51, 2004 Oct 1 (UTC)

Shakespeare programming language
Keep: 641 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Shakespeare programming language". May have gotten some populartiy due to its name. -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)


 * Delete. Zero actual use, maybe could be a footnote in a larger article. {&Alpha;&nu;&#940;&rho;&iota;&omicron;&nu;} 13:19, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Yah, redirect. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. More detail here than in most of the other articles. --AlexChurchill 17:02, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)

SLOBOL programming language
11 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "SLOBOL programming language". Invented as a Joke. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Delete. A joke, not a real programming language.  A link to   or a similar page from Esoteric programming language, and/or a mention in SNOBOL, would be more than sufficient.   &mdash;Triskaideka 20:33, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

SMITH programming language
7 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "SMITH programming language". Substub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

SNUSP programming language
25 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "SNUSP programming language". Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Thue programming language
10 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Thue programming language". Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

TMMLPTEALPAITAFNFAL
31 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "TMMLPTEALPAITAFNFAL programming language"''. Actually it is not only one language, it is a new language for each day based on a unique-day-index. -- Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Delete. Even though implementations exist, this is still a joke with no practical applications, no philosophical ramifications, and, IMO, little humor value.   &mdash;Triskaideka 15:06, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)

URISC
0 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "URISC programming language". Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * It's an architecture, not a language. Merge with Turing tarpit and redirect. See comments above re iota. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep, RTFA again. Agree partially with Securiger, but would like to point out that wikipedia is not paper, you don't magically kill an extra tree or "use up an extra page". Merge and redicrect costs more HD space than leaving this as is. :-), (and it's tidier to have more pages IMHO). Kim Bruning 21:04, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep: This is a importent article, just like OISC is. -- zzo38 02:51, 2004 Oct 1 (UTC)

Unlambda
Keep: 685 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Unlambda programming language". Seems to actually work and to have some significance. -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

VALGOL programming language
23 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "VALGOL programming language". Invented as a joke. " Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Var'aq
30 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Var'aq programming language". Klingon programming language. Substub. "''. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep. While a joke programming language, this one is notable even if only in a small group of users &mdash; I've heard of it before. {&Alpha;&nu;&#940;&rho;&iota;&omicron;&nu;} 12:11, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Merge with Klingon language and redirect. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Whenever
27 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Whenever programming language". the language has no sense of urgency. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete when you get around to it. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep and expand, unless the claims of a working interpreter and programs turn out to be false. Assuming it does function as advertised, it is worth covering for its unique method of executing statements.   &mdash;Triskaideka 17:14, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Whirl
28 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Whirl programming language". Stub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Whitespace programming language
688 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Whitespace programming language". Seems to be more significant. Weak Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Many of those Google hits are unrelated, and many of the related ones are due to being slashdotted. I see very little evidence of it being used for anything. A very weak keep (but what will happen if I add an article for Acme::Bleach?) Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep and expand. Multiple interpreters and programs exist.  As with most esoteric languages, it's not in widespread use for applications, but a discussion of it is of academic and philosophic value.    &mdash;Triskaideka 19:33, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Has very interesting philosophical implications. After this you can't even trust the spaces in a document to be safe ;-) Kim Bruning 21:05, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Wierd programming language
53 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "Wierd programming language". Stub. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

ZT programming language
97 google hits for -wikipedia -thefreedictionary "ZT programming language". Stub. . Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:01, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

SIMPLE programming language
Invented as a Joke. Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:41, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Delete. A joke, not a real programming language.  A link to   or a similar page from Esoteric programming language, and/or a mention in BASIC programming language, would be more than sufficient.   &mdash;Triskaideka 20:33, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Funge
Delete -- Chris 73 Talk 12:41, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Securiger 16:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep. Wikipedia is not paper; there is no reason to not have an article just because the topic it deals with is obscure. -- Schnee 14:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)