Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Esperanza Drum and Bugle Corps


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The result was merge to List of defunct Drum Corps International member corps. Wheter that is a notable topic is a question for another day...  Sandstein  15:49, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Esperanza Drum and Bugle Corps

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Contested PROD. No assertion of notability, no sources at all (except for the single in-universe DCX ref that formerly existed). They did apparently finish first in DCI Division III once, but this is the lowest echelon of DCI competition - I would suggest that only Division I/World class placement should be considered as placement in national competition per the WP:BAND criteria, the other divisions amount to developmental classes. Significant independent sources do not appear to exist outside the walled-garden Drum Corps International ecosystem, other incidental mentions are insufficient to establish notability, merely supporting existence.  Acroterion   (talk)   16:42, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   Acroterion   (talk)   16:42, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:53, 10 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete, per nom., this is appreciated, but if it is to stay you'll need secondary sources. Drmies (talk) 19:14, 10 October 2021 (UTC)


 * delete As the nominator indicated. There seem to be many of these very weak pages about "Drum and Bugle Corps". I would suggest a delete most. Ode+Joy (talk) 00:01, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge (and reduce) to new List of defunct Drum Corps International member corps article. User:力 (power~enwiki, π,  ν ) 00:09, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge to List of defunct Drum Corps International member corps. Not indpendently notable of DCI. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 12:51, 18 October 2021 (UTC)


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