Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ester Nurumi Tri Wardoyo (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. ✗ plicit  08:59, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Ester Nurumi Tri Wardoyo
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Passes neither WP:GNG nor WP:NBAD zoglophie 11:24, 25 June 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:30, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Women,  and Indonesia. zoglophie 11:24, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:17, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete. This was soft deleted in April. The fact that no one seems to have noticed the discrepancy between the girls' badminton tournaments the athlete competes in and the male pronouns used in the article -- the latter with zero sourcing -- is a testament to how problematic it is to have so many unmonitorable sportsperson BLPs on people who do not get independent media attention. If they identify as a boy, ok, but we have no way of knowing this and it could just as easily be an attack page. Because all the RS coverage is passing mentions in girls and women's badminton articles, there is nothing to support the current gender claims on the page and the potential harm is enough to warrant speedy deletion. JoelleJay (talk) 23:47, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete due to lack of evidence that this person passes WP:GNG. I note that there is no specific notability criterion for badminton players that I can find. Also, the male pronouns in the article seem more likely to be the result of a poor translation from Indonesian, a language which generally lacks grammatical gender, rather than a comment on the person's gender identity or an attack against them. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:10, 9 July 2022 (UTC)


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