Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Estonia–Malaysia relations


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The result was   delete. slakr \ talk / 12:15, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Estonia–Malaysia relations

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the existence of relations/recognition is not the same as notable relations. there are no resident embassies, no agreements between the countries, and only 1 visit by a minister in 20 years in relations. the article claims major trade partners when in fact the reference says Malaysia represents 0.40% of Estonia's imports. the fact that Estonian DJ played at a malaysian music festival and mentioned one line in an article is scraping the barrel for relations. the other sources provided confirm diplomatic recognition and existence of a honorary consul. LibStar (talk) 23:25, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * According to this, trade between the two countries is about 13 million Euros, malaysia's total trade is RM1.27 trillion, or 280 billion euro. so Estonia represents a miniscule 0.005% of Malaysia's total trade. LibStar (talk) 00:10, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Malaysia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:52, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Estonia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:52, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bilateral relations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:53, 31 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep There is still a significant trade relations like this article. Plus, if there is no embassies then why still keep some article like the Israel–Malaysia relations when there is no official diplomatic relations and no embassy and even any consulate. &mdash; "ʀᴜ" ɴᴏᴛ ʀᴜssɪᴀɴᴡʜᴜᴛ? 18:58, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
 * 13 million euros significant trade? As stated above this is 0.005% of Malaysia's total trade. If Estonia stopped trading with Malaysia, I don't think either country would notice. Israel has a special relationship with all Muslim countries, given that they don't have formal diplomatic relations that's why they don't have embassies. On the other hand Estonia and Malaysia have formal recognition yet no embassies, and can't even negotiate one agreement in 20 years and only one visit by a minister from either country in 20 years. That's how minor the relationship is. LibStar (talk) 12:44, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
 * and if you don't like Israel–Malaysia relations please nominate it for deletion but quoting it here is a WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS argument. I note that the Malaysian PM wrote three times to the Israeli PM. I doubt the Malaysian PM has ever written to the Estonian PM once in 20 years of relations. LibStar (talk) 12:52, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
 * And, you know. There's an ongoing relationships between the Islamic community in Malaysia and the Islamic communities of Palestine and Malaysia's diplomatic relations with countries in the Middle East have regularly focused on conflicts involving Israel. There are also suggestions (though in diplomacy-focused blogs, not RS) that Israel intends to open a regional embassy in KL. I don't think Israel–Malaysia relations is a good comparison here. Stalwart 111  04:36, 5 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete, of course. I'd be surprised if most Malaysian diplomats can find Estonia on a map and $13 million in trade is probably just the stuff a handful of Estonians bought from Malaysian manufacturers on eBay. This is just another in a seemingly endless list of X-Y-relations articles and citing other such articles that haven't yet been brought to justice is a terrible argument for keeping this one. GNG, people. GNG. Stalwart 111  04:27, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete- these X-Y relations articles are generally terrible, and this is no exception. The sources are not very good, amounting to WP:RUNOFTHEMILL coverage and it's actually a little bit misleading to present this stuff as actual "relations" between these two nations. Reyk  YO!  11:16, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
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