Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eternal Lands (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Listed for 13 days with no arguments for deletion aside from the nominator. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 23:33, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Eternal Lands
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All sources are primary sources or fan sites --Botanicvelious (talk) 20:09, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep – Enough independent - creditable – verifiable coverage, as shown here, to warrant inclusion here on Wikipedia.  Thanks. ShoesssS Talk 20:20, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I saw one of those GoogleNews results was already cited in the article. If more are relevant they should be added to the references list. Google results do not establish notability. Spacexplosion (talk) 20:57, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment – You are absolutely right! However, the Google News references I showed are typically acceptable by Wikipedia standards as verifiable – creditable and third party sources.  On the other hand, just a plain old Google search has a tendency to show Blogs – Chat rooms – Social pages and other such sites, that though informative, usually do not meet our current standards for inclusion.  Thanks ShoesssS Talk 21:08, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I stand corrected. Now that I think about it, GoogleNews (though a search engine) would only include mainstream news sources in its results. I'll take your word for it that it is typically acceptable. Spacexplosion (talk) 21:46, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:29, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - Please examine the search results and present specific sources. GoogleNews often returns press releases, and links to forums (on otherwise reliable sites). Don't assume that sites returned pass our reliability guidelines either. Both devmaster and mmorpg are self-published sites so should be put under particular scrutiny. MPOGD has been inconclusively discussed here. The only source I'm happy to accept straight off the bat is the About.com reference already in the article. I'm neutral at the moment. Marasmusine (talk) 08:29, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 01:40, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Keep, http://linux.about.com/od/softgame/fr/fr_EternalL.htm and http://www.gamezone.com/news/01_15_04_03_21PM.htm are acceptable sources; support for GNU/Linux operating systems is regarded favorably, as is the (relative) freedom under which the GNU/Linux version is distributed, at least in comparison to proprietary software which permits neither redistribution in any form nor access to the relevant source code. Yet, the lack of permission to distribute modified versions prevents the game from being regarded as entirely free software. Emily Jensen (talk) 01:12, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.