Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ethan Cords


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The result was Delete--Anthony Bradbury"talk" 10:47, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Ethan Cords

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Fails WP:POLITICIAN; Mr. Cords is a current candidate for local office who hopes to run for statewide office in six years. My research indicates that third-party coverage of this person addresses his high-school athletic history rather than his political candidacy. This doesn't meet Wikipedia's guidelines for notability of politicians, and I hope the article creator will read that guideline to understand why I'm making this nomination. (Reviewers/commenters: note that I did copy-edit the article for the duration, and if my deletion nomination is thus inappropriate on a COI basis, I will withdraw same in favor of another nominator.) Julietdeltalima   (talk)  19:44, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:56, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
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*KEEP This article appears to be fine. If you contact the DFL, you will be able to find out that Mr. Cords is a very prominent member and may actually become a 'super delegate' (a prominent political official who votes for presidential nominees) for the democratic national convention this summer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Purpledoglady (talk • contribs) — Purpledoglady (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete Fails WP:NPOLITICIAN and WP:GNG. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:58, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * KEEP Mr. Cords is actually known statewide for his political activities. If you view his twitter profile (@Cords4Governor) you will see he has worked with local politicians, state senate and house members, national lobbying groups and the governor himself. He is very prominent in local politics and is going to officially announce his candidacy on monday the 18th, generating the proper third party press coverage necessary to prevent this page from being deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Purpledoglady (talk • contribs) — Purpledoglady (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * First of all, please make your comments at the bottom of the page, not the top. Also, sign your comments with ~, and don't vote more than once- after all, this isn't a vote, but a discussion to reach a consensus. Also, Cords is not does not meet Wikipedia's general notability guideline or politician notability guidelines, as he hasn't held office in a national or state legislature. Being "prominent in local politics" or "a possible superdelegate" is not enough to pass Wikipedia's notability guidelines, besides which, neither of those claims is reliably sourced. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:23, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: User:Purpledoglady is the creator of this article. Purpledoglady, please look at WP:BIO and review the rules. ThePlatypusofDoom (talk) 21:26, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Doesn't pass WP:BIO, I found no good sources in my search. Not notable by any stretch of the imagination. ThePlatypusofDoom (talk) 21:27, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * KEEP Mr. Cords does hold state office though, as he is a member of the state central committee and is involved in the nominations of candidates, the passing of and writing of party bylaws and is involved with the campaigns of 1 US Congressmen, one state senator and two state House of Representatives candidates. He was elected at caucus night and has been elected by fellow party delegates to hold these prestigious, statewide positions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.112.47.11 (talk) 22:39, 15 April 2016 (UTC)  68.112.47.11 (talk)Jack68.112.47.11 (talk)
 * IP is clearly same user as the article creator, so struck the multiple vote. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:50, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * "Statewide office", for our purposes, means the state legislature or the governor's cabinet — it does not mean his own political party's own internal organizing committee. Bearcat (talk) 18:41, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

If a news article was found, would this page be kept? 68.112.47.11 (talk)Jack68.112.47.11 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:45, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Doesn't pass WP:POLITICIAN OR WP:BIO. Twitter is the sole reference and it is not a good one for notability purposes. Part of the article is about the young man's plans and intentions. It is only speculation as to whether he will follow through and become notable. Many people have worked with politicians or been involved in political activities in high school. That does not make them notable in itself. Many also have been on committees and involved in campaigns without meeting notability guidelines. This looks more like an effort to raise the profile of Ethan Cords in promotion of his future ambitions. More importantly, I found no other reliable, verifiable, neutral and independent coverage in a google search. Donner60 (talk) 22:43, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * A news article is not significant coverage. Find a significant number. Or just accept he isn't notable, which is the sensible, and easier, thing to do. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:49, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

There is a week left on this discussion if I am correct. I will try to find one or more before that deadline. I hope we can have further discussions on this. 68.112.47.11 (talk)Jack68.112.47.11 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:52, 15 April 2016 (UTC) https://m.facebook.com/OwatonnaIkes/photos/pb.1417827575098136.-2207520000.1460760905./1729173760630181/?type=3&source=54&refid=17 Here is a Facebook post about him lobbying on behalf of the Izaak Walton League. 68.112.47.11 (talk)Jack68.112.47.11 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:57, 15 April 2016 (UTC) http://ci.owatonna.mn.us/sites/default/files/documents/2011/01/2015-04-07_Packet.pdf Here is an official document from the City of Owatonna, mentioning Mr. Cords. 68.112.47.11 (talk)Jack68.112.47.11 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:03, 15 April 2016 (UTC) It is unfortunate you people do not live in Minnesota, where you would surely know of him, Cords was endorsed by a state senator and five other important figures such as the President of the Southern Minnesota Municipal Power Association. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Purpledoglady (talk • contribs) 23:39, 15 April 2016 (UTC) I am disappointed that none of you believe what I have said simply because I can not source it to anybody accept for the politician, Mr. Cords, himself from his Twitter feed. For the most part, I respect you people, but I feel as if though, you are not giving fair and equal consideration to my half of the arguement. Purpledoglady (talk) 00:33, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment: So you state that the Owatonnoa document mentions "Me. Cords." This means you are the author of the article about yourself which is a conflict of interest. See: Conflict of interest; Also see What Wikipedia is not. Also the "official document's" mention of Ethan Cords simply is: "Mayor Kuntz introduced Mr. Ethan Cords, an Owatonna High School student that is interested in local government." That does not establish notability by any means. Facebook is not necessarily a reliable source. In this case, the only page publicly available is a picture of five volunteers. Even if there is an article saying these people were volunteers for the group, that does not establish that they are notable under Wikipedia guidelines or have received significant coverage from reliable, verifiable, neutral, third-party sources. See list of applicable Wikipedia pages in the further comment below. Donner60 (talk) 02:24, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Facebook posts are not reliable sources. Real media or bust. Bearcat (talk) 18:45, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
 * We don't care if he was endorsed by Barack Obama, George Clooney, Mark Zuckerberg or God. A person has to win, not just run for, election to a state-level, not local, office to get a Wikipedia article under WP:NPOL. Bearcat (talk) 18:45, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete Agree, fails to assert WP:BIO and WP:POLITICIAN scope_creep 00:22, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Possibly eligible for speedy deletion. Delete per WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. This individual is just simply not notable by our standards. On a sidenote, the very disruptive behaviour by the page creator does not make people more likely to favour keeping this article. AusLondonder (talk) 01:47, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment: See Identifying reliable sources, Citing sources, Verifiability, No original research, Neutral point of view, Biographies of living persons, Notability ("Information on Wikipedia must be verifiable; if no reliable third-party sources can be found on a topic, then it should not have a separate article."), Notability (people), and What Wikipedia is not (including sections: Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion; Wikipedia is not a blog, web hosting service, social networking service, or memorial site; Wikipedia is not a crystal ball; Wikipedia is not a newspaper and Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information) for applicable guidelines, policies and requirements for articles and sourcing. Donner60 (talk) 02:10, 16 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete, fails NPOL and GNG. I recommend that the article creator consider reviewing the notability policies listed above. GABHello! 15:30, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Unelected candidates for office do not get Wikipedia articles just for being candidates — but nothing else here suggests or sources any reason why he could be considered to have preexisting notability for anything. Delete, without prejudice against recreation in November 2022 if he really does run and win in the gubernatorial election at that time — the city council seat he's currently running for won't get him over the bar even if he does win that in November 2016, because smalltown city councillors don't get Wikipedia articles either. Bearcat (talk) 18:41, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

I fixed my typo saying Me. Cords instead of Mr. Cords. 68.112.47.11 (talk) 03:50, 18 April 2016 (UTC)Jack68.112.47.11 (talk) 03:50, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. I am in Owatonna, and I have never heard of him.  Fails all criteria for notability.  156.99.82.156 (talk) 00:31, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
 * If we assume good faith, my conflict of interest point may be discounted. My other points about the trivial nature of the coverage or its failure to show notability and the unacceptability of Facebook as a source still stand - as well as my initial comments. Donner60 (talk) 05:32, 21 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per Donner60, subject has yet to receive requisite non-trivial coverage from reliable sources. Regards, Yamaguchi先生 (talk) 21:53, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as nothing at all actually suggesting solid independent notability. SwisterTwister   talk  04:31, 22 April 2016 (UTC)


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