Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ethique


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Brianne West. There is a clear consensus in this discussion that the article shouldn't be retained outright. Opinions and arguments are split as to delete or merge (and the 'delete's came before the merge proposition), so closing as merge per WP:ATD. The amount of content merged before the redirect is put in place can be anywhere from 0 to all of it, at editorial discretion. Daniel (talk) 08:37, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Ethique

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Regardless of any possible notability, this is hopelessly promotional; if the promotionalism  were removed there would be no content besides a list of funding and a list of promotional  awards. I actually made an effort at this, despite the fact that it was by a paid editor, but gave up when I realized it wasn't possible.

I recognize this is an area where it is difficult to distinguish exceptionally promotional  writing, because the entire industry is based on promotionalism  -- but that is no reason why we should be a contributor to it. NOT ADVERTISING supersedes all considerations of of notability, though I doubt notability also--all the support for this is essential mere notices of funding and PR, none of which meets NCORP.

The article begins with a paragraph about the founder's "passion " for riding the world of plastic. There was presumably equal passion for making money, or at least for being in a fashionable business. The least we can expect paid editors to do is to not write such obvious advertising here, whatever they may be in the habit of doing elsewhere. That the company should think this worth paying for shows we here at WP need to make a much greater effort at explaining the purpose of an encyclopedia. The first step in explaining it is to remove such articles, but then we also need some more positive outreach.

And we should probably re-examine every article about something other than entertainment or sex that refers to passion.  DGG ( talk ) 07:00, 21 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete - fundamentally promotional article, probably qualifies for CSD G5. By the way, I have a passion for the world of crowd-sourced encyclopedias :) MrsSnoozyTurtle 08:40, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:27, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:27, 21 July 2021 (UTC)


 * delete Non notable company, the only coverage I could find is also semi-promotional and even if completely true would not set this company apart form most others. Dushan Jugum (talk) 11:02, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I may have let my revulsion at the self promotional nature of the page get the best of me. Put Ethique into the Stuff search bar and more stories come up than for about half the pages I have created. That said either Brianne West or Ethique would be preferable. I don't have the stamina for that fight and am bowing out. Dushan Jugum (talk) 11:25, 23 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep The company gets heaps of media coverage. Given that I live in the city where they are located, I’ve seen a lot of coverage in The Press over the years that lifts it well clear over the WP:GNG hurdle. And that’s not a local rag; it’s one of the country's largest papers. A copy edit can deal with promotional language.  Schwede 66  19:07, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge into Brianne West. Part of this article is about West anyway, and West is notable only for Ethique. We don't need two articles for such closely related topics. Nurg (talk) 00:24, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Probably written by her but it is notable. Just needs to be cleaned up. Nexus000 (talk) 11:42, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge with Brianne West noting that both articles have their genesis with people directly related to the company. Needs a lot of work on both though as they are written in an advertising style. NealeWellington (talk) 10:50, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment use of the company logo may be a breach of copyright. NealeWellington (talk) 10:55, 24 July 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.