Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eugene Khumbanyiwa


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Tan  &#124;   39  15:28, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Eugene Khumbanyiwa

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Subject does not meet the notability requirements of WP:Entertainer - he has apparently had three film appearances, one uncredited, one minor, and the third in the film District 9, the last being his only role of any significance. The article as it exists appears to exhaust the third party sources concerning him specifically. A proposed merger / redirect of the subject page into or to District 9 met with some resistance (link), hence this nomination. JohnInDC (talk) 15:54, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: For what it is worth, the only in-depth coverage about the actor that I could find is the interview referenced in the article. For the other films, it appears that he only had bit roles (such as Jerusalema, which I just created and researched and found nothing about him).  There is indication that he may become notable by Wikipedia's standards in the near future based on the attention received after District 9, but we should not hold onto this hope.  I would encourage deletion with the caveat of paying attention for the next year or so to see if any new significant coverage surfaces. Erik (talk &#124; contribs &#124; wt:film) 16:07, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  —Erik (talk &#124; contribs &#124; wt:film) 18:26, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - Just a not-too-relevant reference: he is mentioned at some extent here, quoting his opinion that District 9 does not intend to offend Nigerian people. Goochelaar  (talk) 16:02, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Problem is that this is not significant coverage: "'Significant coverage' means that sources address the subject directly in detail." This is kind of a side mention and more related to District 9, where that quote could be placed if desired.  Does not help the biographical article, though. Erik (talk &#124; contribs &#124; wt:film) 18:46, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, indeed, it is certainly not an article about Khumbanyiwa; hence my "weak" vote. I cited it because he is somewhat quoted as a kind of "authority": one might argue that if BBC give some prominence to the opinion of person X, then person X is quasi-almost-somewhat-notable-ish. I am the first to acknowledge that this is very far from a strong argument, or from any argument. Goochelaar  (talk) 20:50, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NW ( Talk ) 03:43, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: This article is a different presentation of the interview cited in the actor's Wikipedia article; not sure if this changes anything, being published by a different source. Erik (talk &#124; contribs &#124; wt:film) 17:36, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete for now per WP:ENTERTAINER because he has not "had significant roles in multiple notable films [and] television shows". His only significant role so far is in District 9; his other roles are bit roles.  I think it is possible for him to achieve notability if his newfound popularity through District 9 leads to anything concrete.  No problem with recreation if he is evidenced to have a couple more significant roles in notable films, such as in the South African film that he mentioned started filming this month.  If article is recreated, I encourage recovering page history since there are some details to serve as background if he finds notability. Erik (talk &#124; contribs &#124; wt:film) 17:53, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   06:03, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   06:06, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Weak delete I think this is a case of almost but not quite notable. It's after all not one of the starring roles in District 9. Probably another such film would do it.    DGG ( talk ) 07:26, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Let's Delete the article for now, it has been over three weeks since the nomination, giving a chance for more sources to be published. Users will have to be satisfied with Imdb until he crosses into notability. Abductive  (reasoning) 07:53, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: This has been relisted three times and still fails WP:ENT. Joe Chill (talk) 14:06, 17 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep In Malawi, he's a major star because of these few roles. We cannot use the Western measuring stick, just as we often treat African music notability different from US/UK ( talk→   BWilkins   ←track ) 14:18, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep per User:Bwilkins-- NotedGrant  Talk  14:53, 17 October 2009 (UTC)


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