Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eugene Mackaben


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. General consensus, further discussion to talk pages please (non-admin closure) Nightfury 09:42, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Eugene Mackaben

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GNG and WP:ARTIST fail. I cannot find any sources online. Those mentioned at end of article are largely local. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 04:50, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Artists-related deletion discussions. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 04:50, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 04:50, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Arizona-related deletion discussions. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 04:52, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment, Mackaben's work is held at Tucson Museum of Art (see here), and the University of Arizona Museum of Art (here, and here), his work was exhibited after his death ie. 1998 exhibition, Tucson's Early Moderns, 1945-1965 held at the University of Arizona Museum of Art (here) (have added this to article), so with the info already in the article (unfortunately without inline references) may be enough to meet WP:ARTIST? Coolabahapple (talk) 00:15, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 08:05, 17 July 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Part of the problem is that the way that cited sources in  was fairly rubbish, and has got no better via any cleanup effort since.  The ″American Artists of Renown, 1981″ is actually a biography of this person, in a book of artist biographies.  It has stuff that this article has not gained in 9 years, including the location and precise date of birth of the subject for example.  The one item of TDC coverage that I checked includes biographical information and information about one of the artist's works (Mexican Market Scene, not mentioned in our article), with a reproduction of it above the piece and a report of a prize that it won.  I suggest a more thorough review of the citations already present from the initial creation of the article, to see what is being cited and how in-depth they are.  I have improved those two. Uncle G (talk) 11:09, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 08:23, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Weak keep The article needs the referencing to be improved, but there are some decent sources to be found in the Arizona newspapers. Curiocurio (talk) 00:56, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep having works in permanent collections of [[Tucson Museum of Art and University of Arizona Museum of Art grants passing WP:ARTIST. The referencing and the overall strcuture of article needs to be improved though. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 15:02, 28 July 2019 (UTC)


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