Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eugene Mosher


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The result was   delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:45, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Eugene Mosher

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No verifiable notability. External links are to insignificant web-only articles. The subject of the article uses the article as his calling card on various Internet forums, including foodservice.com, where subject's assertions about his own notability have been questioned, and where the assertions remain unsubstantiated. The subject apparently did own several restaurants, and currently sells a software product to the food service Industry. Links to this article from other pages seem to have been inserted into those other pages primarily in order to "anchor" this article into Wikipedia. Pooryorick (talk) 22:28, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Oregon-related deletion discussions. Valfontis (talk) 23:55, 13 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment The only valid deletion criterion I see in the nomination is that it appears to fail WP:GNG and lacks verifiable references that would support notability. It may be an autobiography (it was created by an Oregon-based IP in 2004 and the subject appears to have edited the article and provided images) by that isn't necessarily a reason for deletion. This AfD should address notability only. Valfontis (talk) 23:55, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
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 * Delete After studying the available references (not, like the nom says, web-only, but in fact including two print newspapers) and not finding any more reliable sources on the Internet, nor in news, books or magazines, especially independent sources, I have to conclude that this article does not pass general notability, nor notability for biographies (and more specifically biographies of creative professionals), especially in terms of significant coverage. After having removed much unsourced material from the article (which appears to have been added by the article's subject), the remaining sources are two hometown papers from two of Mr. Mosher's hometowns, one of which mentions about 10 clients for his company, and another which mentions a few hundred. So redirecting, say, to an article about his company ViewTouch isn't a solution, as the company would not pass WP:CORP. Per criterion #2 of WP:CREATIVE, it might be possible that Mr. Mosher "is known for originating a significant new concept, theory or technique" However, though it appears Mr. Mosher may indeed be a pioneer in the POS field, nobody seems to be claiming this except Mr. Mosher himself, and though it might be a great injustice that he is not getting the credit due him, that is not Wikipedia's problem. I also resent what appears to be an attempt by the article's subject to use Wikipedia to promote himself. I did my due diligence before coming to that conclusion and had hoped it wasn't the case. I'd suggest Mr. Mosher work on his AboutUs page instead. Wikipedia is not here to provide free advertising space. Valfontis (talk) 08:04, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per Valfontis. I'm also unable to find independent, reliable sources with significant coverage of Mosher. --Ronz (talk) 18:00, 14 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete - Lacks coverage in reliable sources. Local coverage essentially take his claim of inventing the touchscreen POS like in this article.  There is no corroborating independent sources that attest to his being the inventor of the touchscreen POS.  In fact, if one reads the article carefully, he appears to be claiming that he shopped his ideas around but they companies simply stole his ideas.  It's an easy claim to make but difficult to prove.  In any event and touchscreen POS is not something so innovative that others in the same industry would not have indpendently dreamed up. -- Whpq (talk) 18:04, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
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