Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eugene Skinner

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was keep. &mdash;Korath (Talk) 17:39, Mar 6, 2005 (UTC)

Eugene Skinner
Bescause this is silly. --NewAtair &#945 22:26, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * Uh... a quick google search suggests that the town of Eugene, Oregon was founded by one Eugene F. Skinner. So why is this silly, as opposed to a stub? Keep as can clearly be expanded (either if true, or if a widespread myth). Average Earthman 23:13, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * This ist not really an stub, it is only an one-liner: Founder of Eugene, Oregon.. Where in the hell is Eugene? --NewAtair &#916; 23:21, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * It's a sub stub then. Eugene is in Oregon. Which anyone with any ability to use an encyclopedia would be able to find. If only we had one handy, preferably online with a useful search function that we could type 'Eugene, Oregon' into... Average Earthman 23:48, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Ain't even that, IMO. Should be a redirect to Eugene, Oregon.  This is useless as it stands. - Lucky 6.9 23:52, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment and question: The existing article already has a red link to Eugene Franklin Skinner listing him as the founder of the city.  Can this be redirected now or does it have to wait out the VfD? - Lucky 6.9 23:55, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and Expand. Eugene, Oregon is a large enough city that its founder deserves his own article. DaveTheRed 00:13, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Why should the founder need its own article until there's enough material to put in it? Why not let it incubate in Eugene, Oregon and break it out only when it becomes a hatchling? Dpbsmith (talk) 00:20, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * I've set it cheeping. Average Earthman 00:47, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Everything in this article and more is already in Eugene, Oregon, which has ample room for expansion. The chances that anyone looking for information on Eugene Franklin Skinner would not be aware of him as the founder of Eugene are zilch. If someone prefers to make it a redirect, though, they should also make redirects for Eugene F. Skinner and Eugene Franklin Skinner. Only having a single redirect does little good. Someone who knows he founded Eugene will find Eugene, Oregon. Someone who does a global text search on "Eugene Skinner" will find Eugene, Oregon. The only situation in which a redirect does any good is if we assume the unlikely scenario that someone a) knows the name, b) doesn't know he founded Eugene, c) doesn't do a text search. If we wish to serve this person, we can't predict which of the three likely forms of the name he will use, so we ought to provide all three. I say it's either three redirects, or none. I prefer "none." Dpbsmith (talk) 00:20, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Try applying that to fictional characters and see how far that gets you around here. I've expanded the biography with details. Average Earthman 00:45, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * See: Consistency, foolish, little minds, hobgoblin of. :-) Thanks for the expansion. Dpbsmith (talk) 10:56, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep in present form. Dpbsmith (talk) 02:54, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Now a perfectly valid biography of a historical individual. Keep. GeorgeStepanek\talk  01:54, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * What, this isn't about a Pokémon? Seriously, keep terrific new article.  The Earthman comes through in the clutch! - Lucky 6.9 01:56, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep with recent edits. &mdash;RaD Man (talk) 03:56, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Postdlf 05:10, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, and kudos to Mr. Skinner for naming the town after his first name. I like his daring to be different. Meelar (talk) 06:38, Mar 1, 2005 (UTC)
 * 'Keep. Well done Average Earthman, Apart from Eugene Oregon, Skinner Butte outside Eugene is named after him - imagine what fun Bart Simpson would have with that name. A Liberty Ship was named after him as well. Capitalistroadster 11:01, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * In fact it's probable that his name was the inspiration for the name of Seymour Skinner, since Groenig is from Eugene. See Springfield (The Simpsons). Somehow the fact that "Seymour Butts" is a common prank name seems to fit into the chain of creativity here. -- Decumanus 20:04, 2005 Mar 1 (UTC)
 * Current entry looks good; keep. DS 14:09, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep new article. Average Earthman wins an Internet for his efforts.   &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 04:56, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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