Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/European Council on International Relations


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The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 18:19, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

European Council on International Relations

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A dozen Google hits; zero discussion in outside sources. Not notable, even if they claim that "among the contributor`s of EUCIR is also Fidel Castro, former president of Cuba" (as if that's something to brag about, but never mind now). Biruitorul Talk 03:53, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - The key here is not whether the organisation exists, or what it's done, but whether it's recognised by independent neutral sources as having done it, and whether those sources go on to indicate the organisation is considered notable by its peers or by some significant community somewhere. The article doesn't provide any references that would let us say that such recognition exists, so delete. - DustFormsWords (talk) 05:19, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

A lot of yahoo hits.

"Although using a search engine like Google can be useful in determining how common or well-known a particular topic is, a large number of hits on a search engine is no guarantee that the subject is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Similarly, a lack of search engine hits may only indicate that the topic is highly specialized or not generally sourceable via the internet. One would not expect to find thousands of hits on an ancient Estonian god. The search-engine test may, however, be useful as a negative test of popular culture topics which one would expect to see sourced via the Internet. A search on an alleged "Internet meme" that returns only one or two distinct sources is a reasonable indication that the topic is not as notable as has been claimed.

Overall, the quality of the search engine results matters more than the raw number."

For the recognition of the organization, given the level and the accompliishments of its members - see ECFR Council seems quite well recognized.

Don't delete.
 * Put that in quotes, and Yahoo gives 7 hits. Still pretty unimpressive. - Biruitorul Talk 23:22, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NW ( Talk ) 03:46, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Speedy delete, advertisement.  Sandstein   05:13, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete If you search for the entire phrase "European Council on International Relations" with quotes (otherwise you get pages which contain any single one of those words), you get 16 hits on Google. Every one of those hits is a wiki mirror, their own website, or a press release. Google news gets none. Notability just isn't there.-- Fabrictramp |  talk to me  16:24, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
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