Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/European Union member states at the 2004 Summer Olympics (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. Ѕandahl 02:55, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

European Union member states at the 2004 Summer Olympics
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Consists largely of WP:OR and speculation/'what if', based on a comment from one man. Also falls foul of WP:NPOV as presenting such statistics is clearly pro-EU; furthermore it's clear that despite Prodi's wishes the EU will not be competing in Beijing 2008. See also WP:Articles for deletion/2004 Summer Olympics medals count by International Organization. Paulbrock (talk) 16:23, 8 February 2008 (UTC) (categories)


 * Strong delete — I fully agree with Paulbrock's comments on OR and NPOV problems. Additionally, I am convinced that this article was initially created, and survived AfD previously, solely because of WP:ILIKEIT reasons fueled by nationalistic pride at the time of the 2004 Games.  Around the time of the first AfD discussion, Romano Prodi's quotes were added to the article, nominally to justify the article's existence, I suppose.  However, now we have undue weight given to those comments.  I think the existing referenced sentence in the 2004 Summer Olympics medal count article is wholly sufficient to include Prodi's comments in this encyclopedia. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 16:56, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, someone's speculation. Punkmorten (talk) 19:18, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Proposal motivated by anti-EU attitude, while there is nothing original or POV in that article that is a compilation. This has been quite clear in the previous debates that concluded with a keep. --Pgreenfinch (talk) 19:47, 8 February 2008 (UTC)--Pgreenfinch (talk) 19:47, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
 * If the sections tagged as OR actually have sources, can you provide them please? Furthermore the old discussion had votes that were literally WP:ILIKEIT or WP:NOHARM, which were not written at the time of the previous AFD (closed as no consensus, not keep). Looks like Wikipedia has moved on in the last 2 1/2 years and a re-nomination is appropriate.  I also refute the suggestion that I have an agenda in nominating this article, and I alerted both the article creator and WP:EU to this AFD.Paulbrock (talk) 21:15, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete - look everyone, I'm voting delete at a sports-related article. Who would have thought we'd see the day.  Anyway, the article is just generally patently misleading and relies on hypotheticals.  The European Union itself did not field a team, and the results of the European Union member states are very well covered already.  If substance comes about besides Prodi, I could be convinced otherwise, but at the moment, I can't see much purpose for this. matt91486 (talk) 01:37, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and particularly per the arguments at Articles for deletion/2004 Summer Olympics medals count by International Organization (second nomination). --Metropolitan90 (talk) 03:55, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - complete WP:OR. There was no EU team, and it's not really relevant to add results of different teams together. - fchd (talk) 18:12, 11 February 2008 (UTC)


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