Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/European public sphere


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Stifle (talk) 14:55, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

European public sphere

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This is not a 'thing' in any conceivable sense. It is a conceptual entity at best, it is not sufficiently definite to be the subject of an encyclopedic article. Ari T. Benchaim (talk) 14:25, 19 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your feedback. The European public sphere is not as inconceivable as many other articles that have already been published on this platform. It designates a political science concept, that has been heavily documented in scientific literature as well as reports from European institutions. It is very well defined as indicated in the various and numerous sources I put at the end of my article. The European public sphere tackles issues related to media, European elections, the Conference on the future of Europe and a space that is designed for European citizens to exchange views. I firmly believe that this article would be helpful for everyone to have a better grasp of what a European public sphere means. Antoine Ichas (talk) 14:04, 20 April 2022 (UTC)


 * . Per ISBN 9781527548749 they're still looking for it, though.  Or were in 2019, an important year according to the book's introduction.  ISBN 9781785360916 talks about how to make one (in case one wants to roll one's own, presumably) .  ISBN 9781107081659 has more than one.  I pity the person who tries to wikify this content.  It has its own idiosyncratic referencing system involving the creator's own userspace.  For that alone, I think that this should not be in the main article namespace.  This is a draft that is as it stands too hard for others to collaboratively write on. Don't tell the umpteen social and political scientists searching for this and writing books on it for years on end that I've found it.  &#9786; Uncle G (talk) 15:56, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politics and Europe.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:57, 19 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your feedback. However, the European public sphere is not something to look for, something that can be found. As I stated in my article, it is a process that can take different forms and may very well never happen. It is as concrete as regular public spheres, only not formed yet, or rather formed only during brief moments or on certain platforms. Helping European citizens understand what it is, is highly significant for them to appropriate the European debates for themselves in order to be involved in the coming years, especially with the next European elections. Wikifying this content may be complicated, and perhaps reserved for political scientists, but I believe that many parts of my article can be extended without broad knowledge (such as on the topic of social protests, add a section on the Conference on the future of Europe, the role of mass media in political debate at the European level...). As such, I don't believe that this draft is too hard for other users to work on. Considering the referencing system, I will try my best to conform it to Wikipedia's rules and take inspiration from other articles. Antoine Ichas (talk) 14:10, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Apparently all the footnotes added in my article were removed, thus rendering my list of references non-usable. Antoine Ichas (talk) 14:22, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I've fixed the references. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:53, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for your help ! Antoine Ichas (talk) 10:00, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star   Mississippi  02:53, 27 April 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –&#8239;Joe (talk) 13:19, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * - Note to closer for soft deletion: This nomination has had limited participation and falls within the standards set for lack of quorum. There are no previous AfD discussions, undeletions, or current redirects and no previous PRODs have been located. This nomination may be eligible for soft deletion at the end of its 7-day listing.
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 * Merge to Pan-European identity. It is a concept that is being discussed in academia, but as a relatively minor aspect of the broader topics of European politics and European unification.  Sandstein   10:52, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. The article cites many sources about the concept of a European public sphere. It does not seem to be in dispute that these are suitable sources for Wikipedia, or that they're about this topic. That the topic seems a vague and indefinite topic for academics to study is an opinion, and does not seem not relevant to whether Wikipedia should have an article on the topic. --Here2rewrite (talk) 21:48, 12 May 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.