Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/European triode festival


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was no consensus. W.marsh 22:26, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

European triode festival
Very small gathering of vacuum tube audio enthusiasts. Appears to have little media coverage, and the article itself indicates it only draws about 100 participants per year. ghits: NMChico24 23:38, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. Seems notable within its field. The article does need some cleanup, but this is an annual event. --JaimeLesMaths (talk!edits) 00:37, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:N. I couldn't find any mention of this festival in any non-trivial and notable published works. Also, note that being "annual" does not make a subject any more notable than if it was biyearly or semiannual.-- TBC Φ  talk?  03:36, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment. The 2004 Festival was mentioned in a notable publication here. But your point about annual ≠ notable is well-taken. --JaimeLesMaths (talk!edits) 04:50, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment. Note that, as quoted from WP:N, an article needs "multiple non-trivial published works". One isn't enough.-- TBC Φ  talk?  06:35, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

*Delete. Spam. Article was created by the user which is mentioned in the article, so the conflict of interests is obvious. But if it is cleaned up, maybe it could stay. Encyclopaedia Editing Dude 20:38, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment I cleaned it up a bit so it doesn't read so much like a promo, and categorized it. Hope that helps. This not the only article on vacuum tube audio that needs cleaning up, but apparently the tube buffs are too busy listening to their systems to attend to these details ;) Tubezone 23:41, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete Mentioned in a notable publication, but not "multiple non-truvial published works", which is what I am after as far as notability is concerned. Michael Billington (talk • contribs) 10:11, 29 October 2006 (UTC)*
 * Weak Keep I certainly recognize a number of the speakers as notable in the field of vacuum tube audio, but it needs cleanup and to be linked from other articles. Tubezone 20:25, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Wait Wait for additional sourcing. Right now there is mention in only one, but not notable, publications, and the one mention found is now a couple of years old (is it still notable?). Criteria for notability haven't been met. If additional evidence is found, article will likely have to be trimmed to conform to only what the reliable sourcing says, as the article currently appears to be based primarily on the event's own web site. If sourcing isn't found, Delete. --Shirahadasha 03:39, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep Needs cleanup, notable for a specialised field. IA (talk)  17:24, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment I don't have easy access to the magazines mentioned in the article, but they're a pretty fair collection of magazines devoted to the hobby and apparently they published whole articles on this event, not just passing mentions. If this was just another audio swap meet, I'd say, sure, ditch it, but they're flying speakers in from the USA and the attendees aren't just locals. I did contact the principals and asked them to help clean this up and add some sources. Tubezone 08:09, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep (though a close call). I looked at a bunch of the ghits, and it was enough to convince me that the festival is sufficiently notable.  In addition to the Steriophile article, I found another (possibly) non trivial mention in this Italian online magazine. -Kubigula (ave) 16:47, 31 October 2006 (UTC)


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