Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eurovision boycott 2019


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Eurovision Song Contest 2019. Redirecting, since the title is a reasonable search term and most of the delete !voters explicitly noted that it was superfluous to the section on the main page -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 01:32, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

Eurovision boycott 2019

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I redirected this to Eurovision Song Contest 2019, but was reverted by the article creator. This article is a WP:POV nightmare and is more appropriately covered in the article for the event. feminist (talk) 13:52, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
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 * delete If they boycott, and nobody cares, will we then need an article? Lives somewhere between WP:PROMOTIONAL and WP:CRYSTAL. Mangoe (talk) 14:12, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
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SharabSalam (talk) 14:23, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep the subject of the article is significantly reported in the news and the article represents a full image of the subject unlike the subtitle in Eurovision Song Contest 2019. I think the subject of boycotting the Eurovision 2019 should have a background section and other sections this can't be under a subtitle but in a whole another article. I don't think that there is any POV in the article and if there is then you can modify it instead of deleting the whole article. The subject of boycotting Eurovision is still going in a timeline and each day there are news about it, it's odd to not make an article about it. Here are some examples and this is just a drop of a sea, , , . The article isn't about whether there will be a boycott or not but about the call of boycotting Eurovision and it's impacts. The subtitle in the Eurovision article wouldn't give the reader a full image of the subject which again is significantly reported in the news.
 * Comment: Those sources can be used to expand the calls for boycott section in the Eurovision 2019 article. Like this and this can be added to Ireland's section simply explaining that RTE won't impose santions on employees that chose to boycott Eurovision in Israel. This source can also be incorporated easily into the same section and expand on the small portion that already mentions Irish celebrities boycotting the event. Iceland's choice not to boycott Eurovision in Israel is already documented in their respective section. However adding this source to the article won't hurt.  ♪♫Al ucard   16♫♪  15:43, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment: agree. However, what you said doesn't dismiss my point that there should be a new article to give the reader a full image of the subject. Instead of making it a subtitle in a section in Eurovision 2019 article. The reason why I shared all of these sources is because I see many news about the call of "boycotting Eurovision" and yet there is no saperated article in Wikipedia about it. A new saperated article would give a full image of the subject and the article can be improved. SharabSalam (talk) 16:06, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The section does give a comprehensive image of the topic at hand without the need of a separate article however this doesn't mean that the section is perfect. Things can always be improved upon, however there is simply not enough information on this particular topic that warrants a separate article that will just repeat what the section already states. Instead of trying to split the section into a separate article work on improving the existing section already found at Eurovision Song Contest 2019 and if you need help or guidance the kind folks that regularly edit Eurovision related articles will be glad to help you on the talk page. If anything happens to change as the contest approaches this can always be revisited but at this moment there isn't a need for a separate article on this topic. Also copying over content from Eurovision Song Contest 2019 to Eurovision boycott 2019 (Rev diff) in order to flesh out the article won't help matters much. There needs to be substantial new developments not already covered by Eurovision Song Contest 2019 before considering a new article just for this topic.  ♪♫Al ucard   16♫♪  18:04, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I disagree with you. The section does not give a comprehensive image of the subject and there are updates each day here is an example from today and if we kept updating the section it would be unrelated to the article of Eurovision song contest 2019 I think it's important to make an article so that we can update the subject of boycotting Eurovision and at the same time not ruin the article of Eurovision song contest. SharabSalam (talk) 10:57, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Your ref says "it was due to finance". Withdrawing due to financial reasons is not a boycott. Dorsetonian (talk) 13:05, 13 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete and possibly Salt to prevent recreation: All relevant information about the boycott can be found at Eurovision Song Contest 2019. At most this source can be incorporated into the section but we don't need a big list of everyone listed in the article.  ♪♫Al ucard   16♫♪  14:54, 12 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Strong Delete: It looks like there won't even be a mass boycott, and even if there were it doesn't its own article, as Eurovision Song Contest 2019 depicts the situation fine. The article itself would need massive cleanup anyways. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 15:01, 12 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete there is no boycott actually occurring, and not enough in Eurovision Song Contest 2019 to justify a split. OZOO (t) (c) 15:07, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete I would have supported a Keep of this article had any boycott gone ahead. But as of now it is not going to happen.BabbaQ (talk) 15:18, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and BabbaQ among others. Sir Joseph (talk) 15:40, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge with Eurovision Song Contest 2019 AlessandroTiandelli333 (talk) 18:09, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment: That would add too much of unrelated information at the Eurovision 2019 article. The already existing content in the section is enough to describe the situation. — Dimsar01 Talk ⌚→ 21:01, 12 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete unnecessary WP:CFORK. Dorsetonian (talk) 18:18, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Apart from the fact that 95% of the article is a copy of the Calls for boycott section at the Eurovision 2019, this article seems to have been created just to advertise the BDS movement. The article's title seems to have been made in such a way to promote the boycott. The article just seems to go against WP:POV and WP:PROMOTIONAL. — Dimsar01 Talk ⌚→ 20:56, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge into Eurovision Song Contest 2019 as a fork. Debresser (talk) 19:51, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
 * KEEP Only part of the delete comments that had any weight was the WP:CFORK. The boycott itself is a part of BDS Movement  There are many events that never occurred but were still notable. (such as the 1940 Summer Olympics, the 1940 Winter Olympics, and the 1994 World Series) There is enough coverage to warrant inclusion. We should expand both Eurovision Song Contest 2019 and this article.  There are NO WP:POV issues! I would like to you point some to me. So said The Great Wiki Lord. (talk) 23:05, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. WP:POVFORK of section in Eurovision Song Contest 2019. The title is a bit WP:CRYSTALBALLy - as is Eurovision 2019 for that matter, but we can probably assume Eurovision 2019 will take place (and there are preparations for it) - though there isn't much to write about there (So per WP:SIZE - no need for a fork). If the boycott turns out to be an actual event (in the future), as opposed to a reaction/call - there might be scope for a fork - but that is better assessed in the future. Icewhiz (talk) 08:35, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. As WP:PROMO for a political cause, and as an unnecessary WP:POVFORK of Eurovision Song Contest 2019. Sourcing is extremely weak/thin, there are whole subheads sourced to Wiwibloggs; to vmalmo.se: ; to the political blog  Liberal Democrat Voice.  with sourcces like this, there really is no argument for a stand-alone article.E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:02, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, already covered in Eurovision Song Contest 2019, unnecessary fork. Sam Sailor 05:55, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Strong delete, the calls for boycott aren't significant enough to warrant an article. The "Calls for Boycott" section on the Eurovision Song Contest 2019 article is enough. ThatJosh (talk) 15:07, 18 October 2018 (UTC)


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