Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eva Fampas


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Unable to prove WP:N ( talk→  BWilkins   ←track ) 22:47, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Eva Fampas

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Unreferenced BLP challenged since 2007. I have been unable to find reliable third-party coverage. Deskford (talk) 10:27, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  —Deskford (talk) 10:34, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Inclined to delete. I tried a news search under her name in Greek Εύα Φάμπα, but couldn't find much more than what appear to fairly trivial concert announcements. This one is from a fairly reliable source, but is basically a press release. There is this brief article about her in a print magazine. But I can't read Greek, and it doesn't work with Google translator. Willing to change my mind if someone comes up with better sources and/or translates the latter article and finds something significant in it. Voceditenore (talk) 11:15, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete, unfortunately. She may very well be the national treasure the article's rhetoric suggests, but we cannot verify. A brief library search revealed only a couple of trivial mentions in China Daily of some international shows. She seems to have several records out, but I cannot verify that they are important or that they have charted anywhere. --Spike Wilbury (talk) 18:05, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. The article is very jacked up compared to what articles should be like on wikipedia. Its format is simly irritating, especially the discography section's format. Some places in the article seem to make unnecessary lists, i.e. when the article provides information for many of the nations she has performed in. If a person or band has performed concerts in all those places, but is not signed, does not have any discography, and does not appear to have any mainstream recognition, the chances are against them having a long-standing wikipedia article. To sum that point up, the touring isn't independently notable, yet is slightly over-emphasized in this article. Worst of all, while there is an external links section, no cited sources are provided, thus not properly backing up the information supplied on this article.  Backtable Speak to meconcerning my deeds. 22:11, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment While agreeing with you that it should be deleted, this should be done solely on grounds of notability. I've seen plenty of articles for notable people which are equally badly written and formatted and even more full of hype. All it took was a liberal dose of the "red pencil" and some easily findable references to fix them. Unfortunately, this one isn't fixable because the reliable sources simply aren't out there, nor are notable achievements. Voceditenore (talk) 22:55, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Come to think of it, that is a good point about the formatting of the article. Backtable Speak to meconcerning my deeds. 23:42, 14 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete I, too, can't find anything useful out there. One thing: the article was created by  in 2006.  That user has a total of 5 edits the first of which was the upload of the photo of Eva Fampas (Edit summary: Self-made Photo Image of the Greek guitarist Eva Fampas, created in November 2003. This photo also exists in the URL http://www.evafampas.gr which I own.), two were edits to this page and the last two were edits to Classical guitar adding Eva and one Dimitri Fampas to the lists in that page.  IMO, this is either autobiography/COI or possibly promotion by a zealous fan  --Jubilee♫ clipman  18:24, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Add my voice to the chorus who have failed to find useful references, with one exception: supports the claim that she is the daughter of the Dimitri Fampas whom you mentioned, who has an extensive but also pretty much unreferenced article.  Without advancing this idea as a formal vote, I'm thinking the best solution here might be to delete Eva's article but incorporate whatever seems most salient and defensible into the one about her father, adding redirects as appropriate.  Oh, and as an aside, at the same time perhaps it would be well to replace his infobox with the more streamlined affair that recently emerged from dicussion of *that* issue. Drhoehl (talk) 18:55, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I would support a merge. He article needs a massive clean up, anyway.  He is undoubtedly notable and I suspect that sources for his article will be less elusive than for his daughter.  Replacing the infobox with Infobox classical composer is a good idea, also, except that he isn't notable as a composer...  That's an another debate, though (hopefully not as painful, this time!)  --Jubilee♫ clipman  20:40, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
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