Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Evan Frankfort


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Yamamoto Ichiro (talk) 23:57, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Evan Frankfort

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questionable notability; advertisement -- Gmatsuda (talk) 23:33, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The guy is a musician, we can keep it if we find addittional sources. -- Free way  guy  23:58, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * eh, no? If it reads like a PR ad then all the sources in the world make no difference. In addition, just being a musician isn't enough to keep something; please see WP:MUSIC. Ironholds (talk) 00:05, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * If he is notable and the tone seems promotional, then the solution is to remove the promotional tone rather than to delete the article. -- Eastmain (talk) 00:29, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Two CDs, according to this: "In his off-hours from working with other bands, Evan recorded his first full-length, self-produced CD entitled Appreciation, under the band moniker Melodine. His band played locally, and was included in the Trampoline Records, Vol.1 compilation CD, the brainchild of Pete Yorn, Marc Dauer and Rami Jaffee. Shortly after, Evan released his second record entitled Out of Your Hands, which was distributed internationally by Atenzia Records." See also http://www.accessmylibrary.com/comsite5/bin/aml2006_library_auth_tt.pl?item_id=0286-22896326 (you will need to enter your library card number) -- Eastmain (talk) 00:24, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: I don't remember off the top of my head what WP:MUSIC says, and I don't have time at the moment to look it up, but I could swear that self-produced CD's generally don't "count?" After all, I could self-produce a CD of my own and claim notabilty, and I can't play an instrument past a couple of songs on the piano and I can't sing without killing anything within earshot...including plants. :-) Does the Atenzia Records release satisfy WP:MUSIC?-- Gmatsuda (talk) 00:29, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Self produced don't count, no, they have to be 2 on the major indie/Big Four labels to count. Ironholds (talk) 00:30, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * So Carla Bley and Ani Difranco are not notable? That would be a sad conclusion to draw, and indicates your stated position is not sensible. Minos P. Dautrieve (talk) 00:21, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Self-produced CDs are fine as long as they are released by a major label or a notable independent one; self-released CDs generally are not. -- Eastmain (talk) 00:31, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   -- Eastmain (talk) 00:31, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * ?: Can anyone confirm he won an Emmy? That might help. XF Lawtalk at me 13:16, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 22:08, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. The nominator is rather randomly proposing deletion, often speedy deletion, of clearly notable entertainment industry figures. Last week he proposed speedy deletion of an Oscar nominee. Minos P. Dautrieve (talk) 13:41, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * AfD is a discussion, not a vote. Comment on the article itself rather than the nominator otherwise your "keep" is completely moot. Ironholds (talk) 16:06, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * That's not exactly true. Minos could be suggesting that the nomination is pointy. XF Lawtalk at me 20:02, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * "Pointy" is close, but it implies some sort of rhyme or reason behind the nominations, which I cannot discern. One fairly common theme seems to be that any article which does not contain derogatory information about its subject may be deleted as "advertising," but even that is not consistent. I was not joking about the Oscar (as well as other awards) nominee, where the justification was that the factually accurate, verifiable article appeared to have been created by someone affiliated with one of the many films the subject had worked on. Minos P. Dautrieve (talk) 00:19, 20 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete. Could find no significant coverage of him in reliable sources. The Emmy claim is not backed up by the sources I found. The IMDB page for the awards in question verifies that The Guiding Light won an award for Outstanding Music Direction and Composition for a Drama Series, but the 14(!) names credited with the award do not include Frankfort.--Michig (talk) 15:38, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and per Michig's comments. - 68.183.55.64 (talk) 01:00, 20 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Speedy Delete as a copyvio from http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=17594721 -- Whpq (talk) 14:03, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as non-notable. speedy for copyvio, but would be delete-worthy even if re-written, unless the Emmy can be sourced.Yobmod (talk) 11:43, 21 October 2008 (UTC)


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