Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Evan Kosiner (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. BD2412 T 04:03, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

Evan Kosiner
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Highly advertorialized WP:BLP of a businessman, whose claims of notability are not properly sourced. Far too much of the sourcing here is to unreliable sources, such as the self-published websites of companies or organizations or educational institutions he's been directly affiliated with, film directories, YouTube clips and CRTC licensing documents -- and even the sources that are real media are divided even further, including unrecoverable dead links from unarchived publications, hyperlocal community pennysavers, and articles which glancingly mention Evan Kosiner without being about Evan Kosiner to any non-trivial degree. There are literally just two sources here that actually pass both of the "reliable source" and "about him" tests, and both of them are short blurbs that still fail the "substantive coverage" test. Further, things like the "Governor General's Sovereign's Medal for Volunteers" and the "Governor General's Caring Canadian Award" (which are actually the same thing renamed, not two separate things) are not WP:ANYBIO-clinching awards, as they're little more than a "thank you for getting involved in your community" certificate presented to practically anybody whose name gets submitted for consideration at all -- and his career as a media executive mostly amounts to trying to launch projects (like an all-infomercial channel) that crashed and burned or never actually succeeded in getting off the ground, which is not "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have much better sourcing than this, either. This frankly has all the classic hallmarks of being autobiographical self-promotion, with the exception of a transparently self-referential username dominating the edit history — but the article's otherwise hitting classically self-aggrandizing beats like "advertorialized tone", "namedropping random former alumni of the same high school who aren't otherwise relevant to his career", "capitalizing job titles" and "overstating the significance of what's basically a form letter as prima facie evidence of notability". Although this was kept when it was nominated for deletion in 2013, that's not definitive: it was a "5 keeps to 4 deletes" which I would have either closed no consensus or relisted for another week of discussion, not a clearcut keep under proper AFD practice, and our notability and quality of sourcing standards have been tightened up even further in the intervening seven years, so we have even lower tolerance for content that's this egregiously advertorialized. Not to mention that it was neutralized from obvious spam at that time, and has since been readvertorialized (which is even further evidence in favour of the probable COI). Bearcat (talk) 00:36, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 00:36, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 00:36, 18 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete I'm going to assume that absolutely anything that might conceivably contribute to this subject's notability has been added to this article, on the grounds that it gives every appearance of encompassing any remotely important thing he has ever done. On this basis alone I don't see that the subject is notable in our terms  - leaving aside tone, sourcing and potential CoI editing, if this is a good summary of the subject's achievements, the article should be deleted. Mccapra (talk) 17:08, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, who has eloquently said everything that could be as to why this advertising should be deleted. Ifnord (talk) 18:41, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete There's so many words to this nom, but they all explain why this article is a WP:COI mess which should have never passed the first AfD, and another "ur example" of a WP:VANISPAM.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 01:24, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Per Bearcat's thoroughly explained reasoning. Best, GPL93 (talk) 13:47, 22 January 2020 (UTC)


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