Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Evangelical Church of the Deaf (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 00:56, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Evangelical Church of the Deaf
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Just an average non-notable church. The first nomination produced a list of sources allegedly useful for the article, but they're unreliable and/or tangential; if that's the best you can do for a keep rationale, you've reinforced the reason for deletion. Nyttend (talk) 01:02, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * WP:HEY Keep I have added a three INDEPTH sources. More exist.  Note that the church had a notable pastor, Bob Rumball, a former pro ball player,  who served this congregation for over half a century.  Long-standing connections with a notable a pastor correlates tightly with coverage supporting notability, as is the case here. Nothing "average" about this church.  E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:36, 20 November 2017 (UTC)E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:47, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:31, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
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 * Delete, somewhat reluctantly. It's clearly not an "ordinary" church, but it's quite small and I don't think it meets notability standards.   PK  T (alk)  16:39, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. I have expanded it using material in citations from the article on Bob Rumball, including information about the purpose-built Centre in which the church meets, and it meets notability requirements now. – Fayenatic  L ondon 13:08, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep called for deletion because the church is "small".  That was a mistake, IMO.  It is not the size of the institution that matters, it is the number and quality of the available references.  There are sufficient references.  Period.  Geo Swan (talk) 14:39, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep -- Notable because it is unusual in catering to particular disabled community. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:09, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep Wikipedia's notability asks the question, "Has the topic been noticed?".  From one of the sources in the article, "This month, the Bayview Ave. centre that bears [Rumball's] name celebrates its 30th anniversary as a Mecca for the deaf and hard of hearing across the GTA."  The word Mecca says that this topic has been more than noticed.  Unscintillating (talk) 16:18, 3 December 2017 (UTC)


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