Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Evangelical Lutheran Church in Zambia


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. The Bushranger One ping only 02:20, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Evangelical Lutheran Church in Zambia

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Non notable church google search doesn't reveal notability Shadowjams (talk) 05:49, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
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 * Keep. Rationale for deletion is weak, since there's no reason to assume that Google will have the same coverage of the local media of Zambia that it does of more computer-saturated parts of the world. Wikipedia's coverage of Africa is already weak, to the point where well-written articles should be the last thing we delete. Edward Vielmetti (talk) 02:46, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment Note that this article was proposed for deletion only three days after the article was created. "If the article was recently created, please consider allowing the contributors more time to develop the article." Edward Vielmetti (talk) 02:56, 20 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. This is a verifiable religious denomination at a national level. As such, I think it should probably be considered notable per WP:ORG. The article does have a couple of sources and should be allowed to be improved through normal editing. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 03:39, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * This isn't about a denomination, it's about a particular church. And where are the sources? Shadowjams (talk) 06:49, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * It is about a denomination, with 30 churches; cf the ELCA ref for the best source I've found to date. Edward Vielmetti (talk) 15:19, 20 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. I originally removed the PROD for this article. The article's subject didn't look like it lacked notability then, at least not to me. With added documentation it certainly doesn't now. __meco (talk) 06:55, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete as lacking in-depth coverage by independent sources. If such sources get added to the article, feel free to ping my talk page. As for the 'denomination at a national level' argument, I'm not seeing a policy that supports that. Many large churches have 7k membership and aren't notable. Stuartyeates (talk) 08:53, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep -- This is about the natioanl manifestation of a denomionation. The article is thus far a poor one, little more than a stub, but that is no reason for deletion.  I expect that the Internet coverage of Zambia is not yet good, so that the Ghits test is inappropriate.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:10, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
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