Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Evangelische Theologische Academie (ETA)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus.   A rbitrarily 0   ( talk ) 22:58, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Evangelische Theologische Academie (ETA)

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While schools are generally notable and articles are allowed to remain on Wikipedia, this is about an unofficial school which the article states is not recognised by the Dutch government. Biker Biker (talk) 17:26, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:39, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * weak delete The lack of articles in English shows that there is little interest about the school outside the Dutch speaking world. Prsaucer1958 (talk) 18:35, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.  —• Gene93k (talk) 20:17, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Netherlands-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 20:18, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete The inclusion of address and phone number always makes me think 'spam', although the rest of the article is fairly neutral. There's not much claim of notability in the article, and I cannot find an article on the subject on the Dutch language Wikipedia. (Now there's a surprise...) Also, references don't appear to be particularly independent of the subject. I can't work out who the christelijknieuws people are from their site, other than that they are Christians, but uitdagingonline seems to be evangelical like the subject. Peridon (talk) 21:03, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * very weak Keep seems to be a college of higher education, but does not grant degrees itself, so the status is a little ambiguous. We've never gone by "recognized" or "accredited" as an necessary criterion. I've removed addresses and phone numbers from hundreds if not thousands of undoubtedly notable articles--spam gets removed, but does not necessarily lead to the deletion of the entire article.   DGG ( talk ) 23:05, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Keep: ETA is a notable Dutch college for evangelical theology. Dewritech (talk) 20:19, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * But do you have any evidence for this claimed notability? The Dutch Wikipedia has no article about this non-degree awarding school (two versions of nl:Evangelische theologische academie were deleted), and the cited sources are either web pages of ETA itself, or press releases from ETA. --Lambiam 20:58, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * There is coverage in Gnews. Dewritech (talk) 08:44, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Such as? Peridon (talk) 10:07, 2 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Here . Dewritech (talk) 10:51, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I can't get any info out of the Reformatorisch Dagblad hits (the framing comes up, but no articles), but some of the others are about ETS not ETA (which only gets a quick passing mention), and all of the 17 appear to be Christian news papers of (for me) uncertain status. Perhaps someone can enlighten us on the standing of these papers with regard to the noteworthiness of their contents, and their circulation. Peridon (talk) 15:31, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Here the corresponding articles of Dutch-Wiki: Reformatorisch Dagblad, Nederlands Dagblad, and Uitdaging. Dewritech (talk) 19:31, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
 * From that, Uitdaging has a circulation of 6,500, a bit small; Nederlands Dagblad has about 30,000; and Reformatorisch Dagblad about 56,000. Peridon (talk) 20:31, 3 June 2010 (UTC)


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 * Keep -- Institutions offering degree level courses sounds notable to me, even if its degrees are not "recognised" by the state - it does not look like a degreee mill to me. Peterkingiron (talk) 22:29, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
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