Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Evelio Otero Jr.


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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 05:01, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Evelio Otero Jr.

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Retired Colonel with no significant decorations, awards or honors. Failed political candidate. Lacks SIGCOV in multiple RS necessary to meet WP:GNG. The claim of notability that he "led the establishment of the first ever U.S. Central Command Headquarters in Qatar. He founded the Polish and Colombian Joint Special Operations Commands while he was assigned to United States Special Operations Command." is not supported Mztourist (talk) 07:36, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete does not meet the inclusion guidelines for soldiers.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:47, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete does not meet GNG. No support for claims as mentioned by OP. "Instrumental in founding" is standard OPR-speak and LinkedIn isn't exactly RS. Intothatdarkness 17:11, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep - He is notable! Tony the Marine (talk) 17:35, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete He just seems to have held various office jobs in the army, nothing special. Non-notable eitehr as a politiian. Oaktree b (talk) 17:56, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, promotional article about a soldier who doesn't meet WP:NSOLDIER, a political candidate who doesn't meet WP:NPOL, and a person who doesn't meet WP:GNG. Devonian Wombat (talk) 01:17, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete - Fails WP:BASIC and WP:ANYBIO. Magnolia677 (talk) 16:36, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete does not meet GNG or any other inclusion guidelines. SportingFlyer  T · C  20:58, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep seems notable enough to me when you consider everything -- especially for someone for Puerto Rican history as Puerto Rico is sometimes considered to be a separate country.
 * "led the establishment of the first ever U.S. Central Command Headquarters in Qatar."
 * "founded the Polish and Colombian Joint Special Operations Commands"
 * "the Electronic Security Command 6931 in the US Air Force Headquarters in Crete" -- important Cold War-era post
 * "congressional candidate"
 * son of the "first television anchorman in Puerto Rico" who has the same name
 * "colonel" high rank; lots of colonels in wikipedia. -- Durindaljb (talk) 20:37, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment I have yet to see any RS evidence that he founded the two special operations commands mentioned. All I found was a reference in LinkedIn that was pulled directly from an Air Force OPR and is meaningless. If you happened to be in the room when someone talked about it they list you as "instrumental in founding". And what RS says the Electronic Security Command mentioned was an important Cold War post...especially since we don't know exactly when he was there (although it would have been VERY late in the Cold War, since he was only active between 1988 and 1991)? Intothatdarkness 23:56, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
 * To piggyback off, it looks like he was in grad school in Alabama until mid-1989 so he was likely only stationed in Crete for the last 18 months of the Cold War at best as a first lieutenant or captain, so he likely did not play a significant role. Additionally, per WP:POLOUTCOMES being a congressional candidate and the accompanying routine coverage doesn't establish notability in rare exceptions (ex: Christine O'Donnell) and what his father did is completely irrelevant per WP:NOTINHERITED. Best, GPL93 (talk) 00:56, 8 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete pretty clear WP:ANYBIO and WP:GNG fail. Best, GPL93 (talk) 00:56, 8 March 2021 (UTC)


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