Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Evelyn Hartley


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) — Sam Sailor 00:52, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

Evelyn Hartley

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Clearly, this young lady is not notable. None of the references currently on the article are biographical in nature (nor are any of them reliable. More on that later), nor could I find any. Pretty hard to write a bio when all we have is supposition on what may have happened in a two hour or so period of her life. The crime story has some potential, but this article is so poorly crafted and mal cited, I'd advocate WP:TNT. John from Idegon (talk) 23:10, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep I think that the page is written well and cites are alright; I have asked the editor who contributed it to seek additional sources but I certainly don't think the article warrants deletion with the current sources. WP:N/CA also "The disappearance of a person would fall under this guideline if law enforcement agencies deemed it likely to have been caused by criminal conduct, regardless of whether a perpetrator is identified or charged. If a matter is deemed notable, and to be a likely crime, the article should remain even if it is subsequently found that no crime occurred (e.g., the Runaway bride case) since that would not make the matter less notable." This certainly meets that guideline.-- Dane 2007  talk 23:16, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep but move to Disappearance of Evelyn Hartley or something similar. points out the applicable content guideline. Fifty years after she disappeared, news coverage of this unsolved case continues. Cullen328   Let's discuss it  00:24, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. North America1000 02:53, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wisconsin-related deletion discussions. North America1000 02:53, 31 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep The disappearance of Evelyn Hartley was covered in many newspapers in the United States in October-November 1953-thank you-RFD (talk) 15:36, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep This article is just as notable as any other missing person, and belongs on the List of people who disappeared mysteriously - User:Davidgoodheart
 * Comment - The vast majority of the people on the aforementioned list would be notable if they had died at home in their beds with their grandchildren surrounding them (e.g. Glen Miller). Their disappearance is not why they are notable. Can you show that there is anything at all notable about this young lady? Her disappearance may be notable, but I only see a very few reliable sources online to that. I would like to see an explanation of what makes the sourcing currently on the article reliable. I see no sources in the sources nor any evidence of the fact checking that we require for reliable sources. In any case,, the scope of this discussion is limited to this article. WP:OTHERSTUFF is seldom a persuasive arguement. If you are a local to the area of her disappearance, actual citations to news articles would be immensely helpful to the firm establishment of the notability of her disappearance. Although this discussion has several days to run, the trending consensus seems to be that she is not notable but her disappearance is. John from Idegon (talk) 19:39, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep, as mentioned above, WP:VICTIM. There is persistent coverage per criteria 1 and no other article exists. I would not be opposed to moving it to a different title to focus on the disappearance. --Dual Freq (talk) 22:58, 31 August 2016 (UTC)


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