Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Even in His Youth


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Smells Like Teen Spirit. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:05, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Even in His Youth

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This is an article about a soung which does not meet notability. Attmtps to redirect the article have been repeatedly undone. User:DarklyShadows (nee Beatleswillneverdie) has been edit warring by undoing redirects with no substantive discussion about the sourcing (see Talk:Even in His Youth).

Here is a breakdown of the sources in the article as of this version.
 * 1) The Brooklynvegan article is just a list of songs the article author considers to be Nirvana’s 15 Best Non-Album Songs`` and does not represent substantial coverage
 * 2) "The Rough Guide to Nirvana" (Gaar). The provided link to the book is 404 for me.  I looked using the preview for this edition.  A search for the song title in the book shows is just a bunch of passing mentions and not significant coverage.
 * 3) "In utero" (Gaar). I assume this is supposed to be the book "Nirvana's In Utero" as Gaar has no book by the name just "In Utero".  I checked this edition.  Again, the coverage is not substantial.
 * 4) This would be the same book as the previous reference.
 * 5) "Heavier Than Heaven. A Biography of Kurt Cobain" (Cross). I used this edition.  Again the coverage of the song is not significant.
 * 6) This reference is the same book as 1  2.
 * 7) This is a page number without any book specified? Useless as presented.
 * 8) Rolling Stone list does not provide any significant coverage.

My own searches do not turn anything of substance that would support a standalone article for this song. -- Whpq (talk) 01:55, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect and either protect or block certain users: It's a perfectly valid redirect but if there's a particularly problem with it being recreated, then we could either protect it from recreation or selectively block certain users from recreating it. Agreed that coverage is insufficient. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:52, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Turn back into a redirect - I agree that the single isn't really notable. It's been mentioned a lot, but it's not received in depth coverage in comparison to other Nirvana tracks. The vast majority of songs ever recorded don't merit their own full Wikipedia page, and this is no exception. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 08:25, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Washington-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 09:04, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 09:04, 19 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Redirect to "Smells Like Teen Spirit" which has the definitive rendition of the song. I have tried explaining to User:DarklyShadows (nee Beatleswillneverdie) on more than one occasion that articles should only be created for songs that are notable. However, after the article was created I did make some edits to the references just to keep it tidy. Cheers. Update:I think that Milk It (song) which was also created by the same editor should also be deleted. Cheers. QuintusPetillius (talk) 10:47, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect per above. I grieve in stereo (talk) 21:30, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Restore redirect to Smells Like Teen Spirit: Per QuintusPetillius. ASTIG😎  (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 01:36, 21 April 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.