Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Everybody Loves Eric Raymond (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. --Bongwarrior (talk) 04:09, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Everybody Loves Eric Raymond
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I'd like to throw this to AfD again because the references seem rather weak; not enough to satisfy WP:N. We have trivial mentions at the Creative Commands and Markham's blogs, a forum post, and a trivial mention at wiki.ubuntu.com; blogs, wikis and forums are not normally acceptable reliable sources and in any case, the single-sentence comments involved do not add up to notability. Marasmusine (talk) 18:12, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. No notable third party coverage. Surely if it were notable at least a specialist Linux magazine would have said something about it. Pburka (talk) 19:06, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep I took the time and looked at a big number of the Google hits (more than 13000 international unique search results) for "Everybody Loves Eric Raymond". There are reviews, mentioning on blogs, citing the page. Since there is less printed material about Open Source (since it is available for free on the net - why buy it on paper) the likelyhood is less to get a printed reverence. Site seems to be well known (cited) in the Open Source community. I recommend to keep it. Neozoon  —Preceding comment was added at 22:00, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Can you link to a review from a reliable source? Google estimates 13000 hits, but there are actually only 319; 279 if you exclude -wiki and -forum. Marasmusine (talk) 08:26, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * To follow up on Marasmusine's point, one would assume that any real coverage of the webcomic would include the name of the artist. A search for "everybody loves eric raymond" John Leach yields only 47 ghits. 8 of those are this article or copies of it. Another 5 are the comic itself or the artist's own blog and wiki. That leaves only 34 hits, most of which are directories, short blog entries, or ads for T shirts. Pburka (talk) 17:15, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment- The amount of google hits is trivial per WP:GHITS. Rigby27 (talk) 18:58, 22 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep - I believe that Wikipedia is a long list of websites. ;) Seriously, I think that this site is deserving of coverage, even if my site with cute toads isn't. Fooooooooooo (talk) 10:03, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete The only claim for notability seems to be that the characters parodied in it do know about it. And as the article itself says, for most of them that is only suggested by private email quotes, i.e. there is nothing like e.g. an interview with Linus Torvalds where he talks about how he is portrayed there (who are all those other people in it btw.? :P). So unless anyone already published an article talking about this web-comic which we could use as reference, Wikipedia shouldn't have an article either. --Minimaki (talk) 13:45, 19 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete- The problem is that there are no reliable, independent secondary sources available. Rigby27 (talk) 18:58, 22 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Double Super Strong Delete- The Wikipedia page on ELER should really be deleted. It's far more difficult to maintain a sense of elitism when it's all spelt out for any n00b with a web browser. John Leach (talk) 20:43, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * delete Highly amusing but does not meet notability criteria. We can always undelete or write a new article if the status changes. JoshuaZ (talk) 02:55, 23 February 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.