Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Evral Trapp


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. ✗ plicit  11:23, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

Evral Trapp

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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 18:39, 2 March 2024 (UTC) Relisting comment: Relisting as opinion is divided. Is there any more support for draftification? It's an ATD but unless an editor wants to take it on as a project, it can just be a slow road to deletion. Also, few subjects on Wikipedia have an "inherent" notability and don't require adequate sourcing...athletes aren't one of them. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:30, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football,  and Belize. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 18:39, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:28, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. GiantSnowman 18:18, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep Nearly 50 national team caps establishes him as a mainstay on the Belize national team—a team that, by the nature of its size, location, and record, never receives significant trustworthy media coverage but in FIFA stands as an equal to all other teams. The article needs a lot of work and should be draftified, but it is well past draftification age. Anwegmann (talk) 03:38, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
 * @Anwegmann: Articles should not be draftified after 90 days but draftification as the result of AFD discussion is actually an exception to the practice. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:03, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I would consider a "draftify" vote in that case. Anwegmann (talk) 15:00, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment – A similar situation to what occurred in this AfD. The tendency is to be deleted, but athletes with more than 20 international appearances should have inherent WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 16:20, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for this reference. I think 20 senior national team caps is a reasonable threshold for inherent notability. On the list provided at Belize national football team, Trapp is fourth all-time in appearances for Belize. It strikes me as WP:BIAS to delete the article of someone that important to and consistent in the Belize national team as not "notable". Anwegmann (talk) 16:39, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep - There are some sources (second source) that suggest Trapp is/was the captain of the Belize national team. Still, the sourcing that meets GNG online is sparse, even when I think there should be more. I would also note that several sources call him Everal. --Enos733 (talk) 05:03, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete as there is no significant coverage. That's what we need to search for. Arguments about presumed notability based on a number of caps might have merit. But an AfD isn't the place to argue for them. MarchOfThe  Greyhounds  10:19, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Presumed notability, sure. We don't have enough for actual notability, draft-ing won't help. Oaktree b (talk) 00:07, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete: There just isn't enough coverage to have GNG or other notability as being met. I can't find anything; what's given a few comments above is fine, but just not enough. Oaktree b (talk) 00:08, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. Subject blatantly fails WP:GNG. -The Gnome (talk) 10:45, 13 March 2024 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.