Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Executive Council of Basel-Stadt


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The result was keep. Afd is not cleanup. Sandstein's argument and source are compelling. Spartaz Humbug! 22:38, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Executive Council of Basel-Stadt

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Non up-to-date information about a political body, which changes at least every 4 years. Duplicate information in Basel. ZH8000 (talk) 18:36, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
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Comment why would you say it's not up to date? It has information about the last election, which took place in 2016. Agree it's a duplicate of what's on the Basel political page, so a redirect without prejudice for a fork is what I'm thinking here. SportingFlyer  talk  05:26, 24 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Response No, it's not up-to-date. It stopped after the first round of the election. In the mean time, the second round has passed and the new government is working – the "Current composition" has not been updated so far. -- ZH8000 (talk) 14:43, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Keep, in principle. Executive body of major sub-national governmental entity (roughly equivalent in powers to a US state) - it is arguable (in theory - I think that it would probably be contested in practice) that every member of this body, past or present, is notable per WP:POLOUTCOMES. And the nominator is wrong both in regarding the fact that an article is outdated as a reason for deletion (in fact, it is a reason for correcting the article with verifiable updated information or, failing that, being clear about when the information was true) and in stating that the article does not cover the second round of the election (it does). However, the article as it stands has some bad faults. In particular, while the nominator is not entirely correct in declaring the article outdated, it is understandable why they might think so when one realises that the article is almost entirely about the 2016 election to the Executive Council rather than the Executive Council itself. For political bodies like this one, we generally accept the inclusion in Wikipedia of information on elections to them, and sometimes in the article on the political body itself. However, if election information starts dominating the main article on a political body, it is usually moved into a spinoff article - but standardly, only once we have enough information in the main article about the body itself to show why elections to the body should be considered notable. As the article stands, though, the election information is undue there, and Basel probably contains more of the information one would expect in the article than anywhere else in Wikipedia. For the moment, therefore, I am quite prepared in practice to see a partial Merge of any information from the article that is neither already there nor currently undue or a Redirect with page history to Basel, to preserve the election data in an attributable format, in the hope that, sometime in the future, it will be possible to use the data in an article where it will not be undue. PWilkinson (talk) 21:12, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. Functionally the equivalent of the office of governor of a US state, or of a devolved government in the UK. The holders of such offices are notable per WP:NPOL, so it follows that the office itself is notable as well. There is of course a wealth of reliable sourcing, primarily in German, e.g.: (a textbook on the constitutional and administrative law of the canton of Basel-Stadt).   Sandstein   10:13, 31 March 2018 (UTC)


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