Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Exhibía


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The result was delete. S warm  we ♥ our hive  07:18, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Exhibía

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No indication of notability for this shopping app. Being the first to do something is not by definition notable, and it's indicative that most of the article is an explanation of what a prefunded bidding auction is. The sources here are one patent description for prefounded bidding fee auctions, where Exhíbia is not mentioned; two very brief writeups on review sites ; and one press release. Also note that a couple of different accounts and IPs have been trying to advertise this in various Wikipedia articles, so there does seem to be a concerted attempt to use WP as a marketing platform for the app. bonadea contributions talk 10:14, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

The Industry Needs a Gate Keeper http://www.pennyauctionwatch.com/2015/05/the-industry-needs-a-gate-keeper/ Wikipedia Editors are being bullies. Miko Lasso is a notable person in the bidding fee auction industry and a pioneer in the penny auction industry.

See first comment by PHOSITA Bobby James. In respect to the author’s statement, “In the history of penny auctions never once has any site owner said, “My site runs shills and bots.”” That is an inaccurate statement. Miko Lasso admitted it when he ran Bidstick and he continues to admit it and cite it as one of the reasons for his ridiculous prefunded auction model. - See more at: http://www.pennyauctionwatch.com/2015/05/the-industry-needs-a-gate-keeper/#sthash.NhKkHixL.dpuf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.153.80.137 (talk • contribs)

Wikipedia editors are taking the side of bots and shills, and clearly are not on the side of development. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.153.80.137 (talk • contribs) 12:39, 22 July 2015 (UTC)


 * The source does not show notability for Lasso - "notability" has a specific meaning on Wikipedia, slightly different from what it means in the general language. We're looking for significant coverage in multiple reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Please also note that even if Lasso should be shown to be notable, that doesn't mean that his company is automatically notable. Notability is not inherited. --bonadea contributions talk 19:31, 22 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete, I have neither heard of this app nor this company in Finnish media that displays some undue coverage on everything related to social media and mobile phones. There ought to be at least some interview of Miko Lasso, if he would be notable. I could not find anything on him withing Finnish language sources. If he truly is a notable person in bidding fee auction industry, why not write about him out there? This app for sure is not notable. I would perhaps reconsider if Lasso appeared in Ylen aamu-tv or Helsingin sanomat, even though I frown upon these wiki-advertising apps. Ceosad (talk) 23:25, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete - does not appear to meet WP:NSOFTWARE criteria.--Rpclod (talk) 03:21, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Exhibia is the 74th hottest startup from Finland http://startup100.net/top-100. We just surpassed Zen Robotics who has raised more than $12M. We understand that Bonadea is from Sweden and cannot tolerate if Finns are doing better than Swedes, but please leave that out of Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.153.80.137 (talk • contribs)
 * Delete: Wikipedia is not a repository of "hottest" startups or apps that are first to do something. Crucially, Wikipedia is not a platform for self-promotion. It's also a good idea to leave out remarks that suggest that national affiliations have something to do with editors' capacity here. If anything, referring to the company as "We" casts more doubt on an editor's impartiality. Delete per nomination. Finnusertop (talk &#124; guestbook &#124; contribs) 14:28, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Talentum Finland wrote about Exhibia. Bonadea is just upset because he did't Win anything with his free bids. http://www.tivi.fi/Kaikki_uutiset/2015-04-14/Suomi-jyr%C3%A4%C3%A4-Euroopan-Red-Herring--listalla-3219717.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.153.80.137 (talk • contribs)
 * Just drop it. You are being too harsh towards her. I would have proposed deleting this app, if I had found out first there exists an article about it. Wikipedia is not a catalogue, and for sure not a sales catalogue, for every single obscure app that exists out there. Ceosad (talk) 15:01, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia has pages for Dealdash, Quibids, Madbid and other penny auction sites. The currently running penny auction sites do not work without bots. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.153.80.137 (talk • contribs)

Exhibia is the only Bidding Fee Auction App approved into the Facebook App Center. How is it possible that someone is trying to claim that it is not notable? WP:NSOFTWARE criteria specifically mentions. A computer program is notable if it meets any one of these criteria: It is discussed in reliable sources adweek as significant in its particular field facebook.

Penny auctions are considered prohibited content by Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/help/174908809241578/ Exhibia is notable enough for adweek and facebook but not notable enough for Wikipedia editors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.153.80.137 (talk • contribs)


 * There is one reference to a brief mention in adweek in the article - it was there when the article was nominated and doesn't show any notability (it is not a discussion or in-depth coverage). Are there other adweek articles about the app? --bonadea contributions talk 11:52, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

My name is Miko Lasso former Filppula and I launched the first penny auction site in the United States called Bidstick.com.

2009, in a chat application on Bidstick.com I told my customers that the only way for us to fight collusion was by reserve bots. This chat log http://www.pennyauctionwatch.com/2010/01/is-bidstick-legit/ makes me Miko Lasso a notable person in the bidding fee auction industry.  the bots were invented  to protect us from mafia  chat mafia  theres never 2 bots  on anything

2012 Prefunded bidding fee auction patent filed. http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=20130262257.PGNR.

2013 Amanda Lee writes about: Penny Auction Business Dilemma http://www.pennyauctionwatch.com/2013/11/the-penny-auction-business-dilemma-bidrail/

2014 Turku University of Applied Sciences hosts 140 person cross continent Exhibia bidding session. (search youtube for Exhibia bid engine testing, for recorded video.)

2014 Exhibia is approved to Facebook appcenter https://www.facebook.com/games/exhibia

2014 Exhibia meets with Google in Slush Helsinki. http://socialshoppingnetwork.org/2015/02/13/google-nods-positively-to-exhibia-and-ssn/

My name is Miko Lasso, I am notable person in the bidding fee auction industry and Exhibia is notable as bidding fee auction software. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.153.80.137 (talk • contribs) 05:29, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
 * If Miko Lasso is the person leaving comment using this URL and is also the founder of the subject, a significant conflict of interest exists. A significant amount of irrelevant and/or non-authoritative material has been posted and does not change my recommendation to delete the article.--Rpclod (talk) 11:09, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

I Miko Lasso did not write the exhibia Wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.153.80.137 (talk) 16:33, 29 July 2015 (UTC)


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