Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/FBW Dreiachskipper Type 80-N


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The result was delete. The "keep" opinions do not properly address the WP:GNG argument for deletion; they do not provide reliable sources that provide substantial coverage of this vehicle (and no, a model is not such coverage because it is not information).  Sandstein  09:41, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

FBW Dreiachskipper Type 80-N

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Fail WP:GNG. Only one vehicle ever built. The Banner talk 22:19, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions.  The Banner  talk 22:19, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Switzerland-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 22:27, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. "Only one built, fails GNG" is not how notability works. Nüedi (talk) 14:00, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 * The mere existence of a vehicle is not the same as being notable. The Banner  talk 14:06, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 * It's still not a valid reason to delete, which including it in the deletion rationale implies you believe. If it's not notable, just say it's not notable. The number built is rrelevant.- The Bushranger One ping only 04:29, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep: As much as I detest scant notability, Only one vehicle ever built is not a valid reason for deletion, per se. Keep. --Whiteguru (talk) 06:43, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   08:49, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 11:16, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   07:47, 16 January 2021 (UTC) BTW: you can buy a diecast-model of the civilian FBW 80N. So GNG is out of question.Nüedi (talk) 10:54, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete The Keep voters are picking apart at the nominators rationale but ignore the lack of significant coverage and thus failure of GNG. SK2242 (talk) 20:29, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Still "Keep", after using google ..."FBW 80N", there is an additional coverage about a second FBW 80N Truck.. Nüedi (talk) 10:42, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * So you claim that a model of a civilian type makes an military type notable? The Banner  talk 11:07, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, because the article itself is about the FBW 80N truck in general. Civil or military, only the color makes the difference.Nüedi (talk) 11:27, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * So that’s only one source providing significant coverage as shopping site listings don’t establish notability. You’re right in that passing GNG is out of the question, because it doesn’t. SK2242 (talk) 23:48, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: Fails GNG. Sources in the article, in above discussion, and found in BEFORE do not have SIGCOV. Mentions do not show notability, just because something existed, does not make it notabile.
 * Source evaluation table:
 * {| class="wikitable"

! Source !! Evaluation
 * Nüssli AG FBW 80N E6A… || Single paragraph on the site of the civilan manufacturer. Not SIGCOV
 * W 80-N 6x4 on Militär Motorfahrer Verein… || A photo on a blog with unsourced statistics. Not SIGCOV.
 * tps://www.spielland.ch/952_200507/fahrze… || Page for a toy model, no information, not SIGCOV
 * }
 * Just because something existed does not make it notable.  // Timothy :: t | c | a  03:35, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
 * tps://www.spielland.ch/952_200507/fahrze… || Page for a toy model, no information, not SIGCOV
 * }
 * Just because something existed does not make it notable.  // Timothy :: t | c | a  03:35, 18 January 2021 (UTC)


 * No, it is not only one sources. FBW 80-N 6x4 on Militär Motorfahrer Verein St.Galleroberland Graubünden (MMV SGO/GR),Nüssli AG FBW 80N E6A,Militärfahrzeuge.ch  FBW 80-N 6x4, Nüssli who show this civilian FBW 80N on some evenents, Militärmuseum Full Switzerland, where the military FBW 80N is on public display,,  and that everyone on the world can buy online two differend diecast-model of the FBW 80N shows it's GNG.  There are no models of unimportant vehicles that can simply be bought.Nüedi (talk) 03:50, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Reply: None of the above is SIGCOV, everyone can see that. None of the sources has direct and indepth coverage of the subject.  // Timothy :: t | c | a  04:19, 18 January 2021 (UTC)


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