Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/FC Barcelona 1–3 Real Madrid


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The result was   delete. Davewild (talk) 12:42, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

FC Barcelona 1–3 Real Madrid

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A prod was removed by the original author of the page with the edit summary of "remove lazy prod" which, in my mind, didn't respond to the reasoning of the prod namely: No evidence of particular notability for this Barcelona v Real Madrid match. No more or less notable than any other Clasico or Champions League semi-final tie. So this is a procedural listing. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:29, 3 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:36, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. The article is presently a content fork from El Clasico. No records were set in the match. Nothing of particular note happened other than one player returned to his former club (Luis Figo) and got a bit of grief from the fans of that club (FC Barcelona). All that anyone would really want to know is in the existing articles. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 11:39, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. All content is already at El Clásico. Bretonbanquet (talk) 11:56, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. I don't think there's enough sources to be able to write an article - this content can easily be included in El Clasico and/or 2001–02 UEFA Champions League. Trebor (talk) 11:56, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - already covered in the El Clasico article, not worthy of a seperate article. GiantSnowman 13:18, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Strong keep - quite certain none of the above has even looked for evidence of notability in books and articles. Has 2 pages in Phil Balls book of Spanish football (18-20), several more in Burns' book on barcelona (2009 ed.) and the list goes on (not to mention the countless of Spanish books on the subject). But of course this hasn't set a record nor is it a premier league match, so ipso facto it cannot be notable. Sandman888 (talk) 18:48, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * That doesn't explain why it has zero detail not already in El Clásico, or why it can't just be merged to that article. Lots of matches have a couple of pages in a book about them, why is this so special? Answer: it's not. Bretonbanquet (talk) 18:51, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Nice to see a mind open to reason and proof in an Afd. And no, no other game has a couple of pages in a book that summarises the entire history of spanish football, but of course you already knew that. It has zero detail because i started it yesterday, however it took only a couple of hours for a PL-fan to slap a prod on it so have no desire to waste time on something a bunch of record-obsessed users will vote to delete. I shd of course have started the Athletic Bilbao 18-1 Ceuta article because it sat a record 60-odd years ago, tho noone has mentioned it since... Sandman888 (talk) 19:19, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I didn't say it did - read what I said. I said "a book". A book is a book, whether it's about the history of Spanish football, or an 1960s book about Accrington Stanley. This is the first time you imply that you're going to expand the article - if you're going to do that, let's hear about it. It has nothing to do with records - tell us why it's a notable game, rather than ranting. Bretonbanquet (talk) 19:27, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Looking at Ball's book, he refers to the first match Figo played in Camp Nou for Real Madrid in October 2000, then a league match in November 2002. He doesn't refer to the Champions League match at all. What is your point? Jmorrison230582 (talk) 19:49, 3 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment. I believe user:Sandman888 is confusing various El Clasico matches. The major trouble involving Barcelona fans about Figo appears to have happened in a November 2002 La Liga match, rather than the Champions League tie in the previous season. (Goal.com, Daily Telegraph ESPN Soccernet) Jmorrison230582 (talk) 19:38, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete it seems all the evidence here now points to an entirely un-notable match that could be covered in one sentence elsewhere, if really necessary. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:47, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - even the article itself does not make an assertion of notability Spiderone  13:17, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. No sign of having received the enduring coverage required by WP:EVENT. Alzarian16 (talk) 10:13, 5 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment Hi,

If you can find some more infomation on this article it could well be notable.The fact that, if it's true, 500 million people watched it that must be notable for something. A suggestion-You could merge it to El Clásico European cup matches or 2001-02 Champions League? I do, however, see both side's of this argument.

Thanks, pbl1998--Pbl1998 (talk) 14:17, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete not notable enough and not much context. Kante4 (talk) 23:33, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.