Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/FIA Formula Two Championship


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The result was   keep. yandman 16:41, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

FIA Formula Two Championship

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Page is redundant, Formula Two article already exists Eightball (talk) 21:16, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Then be bold and redirect it, there was no need to bring this to AfD.   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 22:17, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge then redirect. Perfect example of when to be bold.  Royal broil  04:29, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep, per the convincing arguments below, and split the type of racing from the championship. I hadn't considered this approach. Struck out previous comment.  Royal broil  03:48, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Merge a bold redirect wouldn't have hurt either. 76.66.193.90 (talk) 05:07, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - full series similar to GP2 Series and World Touring Car Championship.... I don't see the latter merged in with Touring car racing. Page is only likely to grow over time with results.... and the Formula Two page is extremely long as it is. D.M.N. (talk) 09:20, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Formula Two should be about the type of racing, European Formula Two Championship should be split from it, and FIA Formula Two Championship kept as a separate, different from the old European F2. --Pc13 (talk) 11:51, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - I'm not sure. Should we then have Formula One for the formula itself and Formula One World Championship for the series? Actually, I think we probably should, shouldn't we? Readro (talk) 12:58, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - There's been several different inceptions of F2 though I believe yet only one "main" one for F1. Maybe a main History of Formula Two article is needed? (such discussion would need to take place @ WT:MOTOR) D.M.N. (talk) 13:13, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - Formula One is the definition of the category itself. There is a definite difference between the formula and the championship. It's not about how many incarnations of the category there have been but the acknowledgement that the set of rules is fundamentally not the same thing as the world championship. Readro (talk) 16:08, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - The history of the F1 World Championship is more tied to the history of F1 as a category itself than the history of F2 is with any existing championship. The case with Formula Two is more similar to that of Formula 3000, IMHO. Maybe we should follow what was done with this one. --Pc13 (talk) 10:25, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - There was pre-world championship F1, from 1947. From 1950, there was no Formula One World Championship, but the World Drivers' Championship. The F1 World Championship only came into being in 1981 when the old championship was abolished. What about the non-championship races? What about the British F1 series? What about the South African F1 series? Simply, we need one page for Formula One the category and another for the WDC/F1WC. Readro (talk) 15:29, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: I've started a discussion at WT:F1 about this (see here) as it's clear that this warrants a seperate discussion. D.M.N. (talk) 15:38, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep, but rename - Get rid of the "FIA" bit from the title. We don't use it in the articles for F1, WTCC, the old F2 or any of the other FIA championships. It's a different championship from the old Formula Two so definitely deserves its own page. Readro (talk) 12:58, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - We use "FIA" in FIA GT Championship. The title "FIA F2" should be used here because there is no regional identification in the name. --Pc13 (talk) 10:25, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - I'd argue that FIA GT is used solely because "GT Championship" isn't the best title. Same with FIA Sportscar Championship. The359 (talk) 18:09, 2 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - Formula Two is an article about the type of racing (an overview basically), while FIA Formula Two Championship is about one particular series/league/championship of that form of racing (Other F2 series have their own article, Australian Formula 2 for example). In any case the old F2 and new F2 are different in all but name. They are only as similar as something like say GP2 or World Series by Renault (two other championships of similar levels). AlexJ (talk) 14:07, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge - Well the F1 page works perfectly fine without the FIA part. They both should do the same thing. Chubb  enna  itor  15:54, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - As per User:AlexJ. Cs-wolves  (talk)  19:46, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep per AlexJ. The series shares a name but little else with its predecessors.  Ideally, a separate page should be created for the defunct European Championship as per Pc13, as has been done with the similar case of Formula 3000.--  Diniz  (talk)  11:26, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep per AlexJ. Formula Two and the new FIA F2 World Championship are not interchangeable subjects. Quite obviously. F1 needs to follow this example as well. Bretonbanquet (talk) 00:50, 4 March 2009 (UTC)


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