Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/FREE Players Drum and Bugle Corps


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Feel free to re-nominate for more discussion, but another week won't help here. Star  Mississippi  18:32, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

FREE Players Drum and Bugle Corps

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While I love drum corps, this particular page does not satisfy GNG. Two are local papers and then the last two are the before-and-after coverage of one event by the local CBS station. It does not meet WP:SUSTAINED/WP:SBST. Why? I Ask (talk) 11:30, 16 May 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TheWikiholic (talk) 16:10, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Music,  and New York. Why? I Ask (talk) 11:30, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Easily meets WP:SUSTAINED, having sources published between 2016 and 2019 currently cited. WP:SBST doesn't apply as this article is not about an event. WP:GNG does not exclude local coverage, and CBS News is a national broadcaster. NemesisAT (talk) 11:50, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
 * One of those sources is clearly promotional ("Weisenberg donates to local drum corps" which focuses more on the donator than the actual corps), and the main point that the sources talk about is how "FREE is going to play at Drum Corps finals!" (a singular event). CBS is a national broadcaster, but just like NPR, they operate at the local level too. The two sources are local news, as they quite clearly state at the top of the article. Another is a university newspaper, which aren't reliable sources per WP:BAND. Why? I Ask (talk) 11:58, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
 * The story is published on cbsnews.com, and even as "local news" New York state is a very large area to call "local". The sources are not covering the event, they're covering the FREE Players. This article is also not about an event, it is about the FREE Players. It feels like a bit of a stretch to say this subject falls under the notability guidelines for events. Am really puzzled at the lengths you're going to try to get this deleted. NemesisAT (talk) 12:34, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
 * The article is about the corps, yes, but their singular appearance at a finals event is not enough to establish notability. And since the other sources (aside from possibly FloMarching) are not reliable sources (being a student newspaper and non-NPOV article), they have not generated enough sustained coverage. Why? I Ask (talk) 12:45, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
 * "The article is about the corps" and thus the articles help estbalish significant coverage per WP:GNG. The Herald Community Newspapers article has an author listed and there is enough independent content there to allow the article to count towards GNG. As for whether The Hofstra Chronicle is reliable, I think it's a bit extreme to dismiss a student newspaper over this non-controversial subject. NemesisAT (talk) 12:50, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Student newspapers are (somewhat) fine for extraneous details, but not for establishing notability. And having an author means very little. The only truly significant coverage (i.e., not just local) I can find just discusses that they "made history" by playing at Finals. But one event does not establish notability. Why? I Ask (talk) 12:59, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete I agree with the coverage is too thin and basically about one event. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:10, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star   Mississippi  02:27, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment They have a mention in a 2019 Newsweek article, but anything after 2013 by Newsweek is problematic, so unsure if this source helps or hinders our efforts to establish notability. Oaktree b (talk) 02:18, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.