Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fabio Hoxha (2nd nomination)


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The result was   delete. Currently fails GNG and NFOOTBALL; can be recreated if/when he becomes notable. Big Dom  07:16, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Fabio Hoxha
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Footballer fails WP:NFOOTY as he has not actually made an appearance at a fully-professional level yet. Lack of significant media coverage means he also fails WP:GNG. --Jimbo[online] 21:25, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. --Jimbo[online] 21:27, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albania-related deletion discussions.  —Futbollisti (talk) 23:02, 17 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - per nom. Subject still fails both WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT. Speedy delete per WP:CSD if applicable. Sir Sputnik (talk) 22:06, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 01:20, 11 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Argyle 4 Life  talk  13:49, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Undecided Nominator tried to G4 this 10 minutes after the article was created. I declined the speedy because there was claims of being on 2 teams in leagues of fully professional players to potentially meet criteria 2 of WP:NFOOTY (the specialty criteria) that derails the previous claim in the AfD made 2 years ago).  I notice that the nominator has not tried to contact the author to help them improve the article.  I would like to see the WP:BEFORE test applied. Hasteur (talk) 15:06, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - still fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 17:56, 11 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete no professional debut in competitive game. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Matthew_hk   t  c  21:23, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - as far as I can tell, this player has only played football for Inter at a youth level, then was loaned out to Piacenza without making any first team appearances. He signed for Varese in July but he's not listed in their first team. There's no verifiable evidence that he has played at a fully professional level nor at a full international level (again, only youth), meaning he fails WP:NFOOTY at the moment. There's also no evidence he passes general notability guidelines neither. &mdash;BETTIA&mdash; talk 09:22, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep: He has a professional contract with Inter (and I brought the sources ). He also meets WP:GNG: lots of articles about him being the future of Albania's national team, and I brought some online ones. Much more in print, unavailable for me now, since I currently am not living in Tirana.Futbollisti (talk) 02:34, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Having a professional contract doesn't make you notable. Neither does rountine sports coverage. Argyle 4 Life  talk  17:14, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The five sources that I brought cannot fall under WP:ROUTINE, because that would be for examples such as sports scores. I brought articles in well quoted sports websites which cover football in Albania and Albanian footballers abroad. It seems like you are misinterpreting WP:ROUTINE for sports, probably because you don't know Albanian. Is there anything you would want me to translate? Four of them (out of five) cover exclusively for Fabio Hoxha. The fifth is an interview of his coach, who praises him to be the future of Albania national futball team. If that doesn't satisfy GNG... Futbollisti (talk) 20:25, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
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